Wednesday, December 15, 2010

League of the Juvenile Godless

Vox Day is, among his many other remarkable writing credits, a columnist with WorldNetDaily. My husband is a faithful follower of his blog. Recently he had a post which Don found fascinating. Because we can't link to specific articles on his blog, Don emailed and asked permission to reprint the entire blog entry here. That permission was granted.

The neat thing about Vox Day is his ability to clearly articulate things that I simply cannot wrap words around. This is an excellent case in point.

League of the Juvenile Godless

Despite their best efforts to conceal it under a facade of reason, they always eventually reveal the essential lack of intellectual and emotional development that underlies their social autism:

But nowhere has the reaction of believers been so forceful as in Fort Worth, to the delight of Fred Edwords, the national director of the United Coalition of Reason. The coalition’s local chapter spent only $2,400 for four bus ads, which will run through the month in a city with about 200 buses.

“That’s more brouhaha for the buck than we have seen anywhere,” Mr. Edwords said.

And thus are all the claims that their various ad campaigns are about anything but annoying Christians at Christmastime belied. Can you even imagine how upset Jews would be if Christians began running ads directly attacking Jewish beliefs during the high holidays in a similar manner? Or how ballistic Muslims would go if similarly attacked during Ramadan? Atheists constantly attempt to portray the public celebrations and positive assertions of Christian belief as some sort of attack on their non-belief, but that is nothing more than absurd and juvenile drama-queening. Consider the lack of equivalency here:

Christian: "God loves you."
Atheist: "You know it's [the Christmas story of the birth of Jesus Christ] a myth."

The Christian statement doesn't say anything about the atheist or his atheism. While one can correctly deduce that if it is true that God loves you, then he must exist and therefore contradict the atheist belief that he does not, it cannot possibly be considered an attack on atheism of any kind. The atheist statement, on the other hand, is nothing but an attack on a specific belief of a specific religion. This isn't to say all of the atheist ads are attacks; millions of people most certainly are good without God. They're simply not good enough to enter into His presence come Judgment Day.

Now, when Christians start running historically correct ads featuring quotes like "There is No God" and "Science is My Religion" along with pictures of notorious atheist murderers such as Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse-tung, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh standing red-handed over the stacked skulls of their many victims instead of "God loves You", atheists can legitimately complain that they're being attacked. (Not that such attacks are not merited; they would be provably accurate whereas the atheist "myth" ad is not.) Until then, they've got absolutely nothing to complain about except for being alone of their own choice at Christmastime because a statement that contradicts your beliefs without making any reference to them is not only not an attack, it's not even about them! And while it's true that atheists happen to be America's most-disliked minority, perhaps they should consider not behaving in such an annoying and thoroughly dislikable manner.


  1. Patrice, you have always clearly expressed your point of view here and on WND. I don't know why you think you couldn't do the same with this topic.

    Anyhow...atheists don't play fair. That's all there is to it. Their goal is to paint Christians as moronic, silly, hurtful, childlike, and a dozen other negative labels. That should be obvious to all who read the "resident atheist" who frequents this blog. She doesn't acknowledge when someone makes a valid point. She doesn't comment on any topics outside of the religious and political ones. (why not?) And she ridicules our faith and us because we have faith in Our Father. This is her goal - to ridicule, without foundation (as the attorneys would say). That is her reason for being here.

    Just as there has never been a successful socialist society, there has never been a successful atheist society. Anybody who has experienced a miracle KNOWS that our Lord is real. Anybody who has been touched by God knows that He is genuine. But even before Christianity, even before Judaism, humans sought a higher power - a god. It is human nature to do so. To deny that deep-seated part of human nature is an exercise in futility. Ultimately, atheists lose the battle of words and wits because God is real and humans need Him.

    Similarly, socialism goes against human nature. To have a society where some work and then are forced to share a larger and larger portion of their labors with a growing number of people who don't work and who live on the labor of others is bound to fail. Most realistic and rational people instinctively know this, and either through bankrupcy or social outrage, or both, socialism fails. It always has, it always will.

    Anonymous Patriot

  2. "Atheism" means "without god". It is not specifically directed against "christianity", although your "resident atheist" having been baptised (through no fault of her own) into the christian faith does know more about that than any others. She does know also, that the christian god and the muslim god are one and the same thing, and that their respective followers simply acknowledge different prophets. The real dangers of unquestioning religious faith carried to extremes has become only too apparent in the last decade. It is mainly this situation that the growing atheist/secular movement seeks to address.

  3. When was the last time an "unquestioning religious faith carried to extremes" in Christianity blew up something? When was the last time the musliims blew up something? Perhaps you should focus your hatred on muslims since THEY are the extremists of which you write.

    Or, why don't you just have some common decency and leave us alone? Does common decency even abide in you? Perhaps you come here and spew your hatred because you can do so without fear of having your head removed from your body. Please, go to the muslims and let's see where your hatred of islam gets you.

    Frankly, madame, you are a coward with a keyboard.

    Anonymous Patriot

  4. Semper fi, A.P.

    It's a dead giveaway when someone professing to understand Christianity spells it with a lower case c and proceeds to then claim we and muslims worship the same little-g god and Jesus is just a prophet. Deader'n a hammer.

    Fried ice cream, anyone?


  5. I've never had fried ice cream but suddenly I want some :-)
    Of course I am already eating way too much over the holidays *sigh*
    Oh well, off to a dinner party!

  6. Last time I checked my Bible, God is love and loves the world.

    Somewhere I saw something about judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

    I'm thinking somewhere around Luke 6.

    -Coward with a Bible

  7. Patrice, I really enjoy your blog and agree with much of what is said here. I cannot however agree with this post. Anonymous Patriot has said that atheists often characterize Christians as being "moronic, silly, hurtful, childlike, and a dozen other negative labels". Well, I am an atheist and I do no such thing. I grew up in a Christian home with two loving parents. My mother stayed home to raise us kids and we were educated in private Christian schools. I have no resentment toward the Christian religion, I simply do not believe in God.

    It is incredibly difficult to hear such generalizations about atheists when in reality, "we" atheists are just as diverse and individual as "you" Christians. Would you assume that simply because someone shares your religious views that the tow of you will be great friends and will agree on everything? I certainly hope not. I don't approve of these bus signs and I don't approve of attacking someone's beliefs OR lack thereof (unless I am being attacked).

    Please reconsider your views, we are not amoral. I am so tired of hearing about Pol Pot & Co. How would you like it if people constantly told you that you must be an amoral sub-human scumbag because they once read about a "Christian" who blew up a clinic full of pregnant girls and women? Or if someone based his entire opinion of Christians on a man he once knew who "married-off" (sold) his daughters to sadistic men who claimed to be "godly"? It would be a gross over-generalization to make any such assumption about ALL Christians. What if I assumed that all Christians beat their children unmercifully because I took ONE LINE of the Bible out of context? That would be so wrong. And yet, I deal with people doing this exact thing to me all the time. When they find out about my views on politics and family, they are astonished that I have such "traditional values". It is all very insulting.

    I (and many other atheists) are doing the best we can to get along in a nation that hates us unjustly. So please, just drop it. We are not trying to break up your marriages or hurt your children. We just want to live our lives, raise our families and be treated like people. How can you really argue with that?

    ~Gun-Toting Libertarian atheist of Iowa~

  8. "Atheists constantly attempt to portray the public celebrations and positive assertions of Christian belief as some sort of attack on their non-belief, but that is nothing more than absurd and juvenile drama-queening". I find this offensive. I am atheist and that means that I don't believe in gods... Nothing more and nothing less. I do not belong to an atheist church or group, nor do I preach to anyone. I mind my own business but if a theist teaches bad "science" to my kids or tries to pervert their freedom of thought, then I will correct them by whatever means I have at my disposal.
    There is currently a very forceful movement championed by various groups of theists which is attempting to brainwash and proselytize children in schools by undermining their education with theist dogma and teaching fraudulent apologist "science". This in my opinion is the main reason that there has been a large and vocal secular backlash against religion. If theist actions are perceived to be doing damage to our children then a backlash is to be expected.

  9. Arguing with an atheist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good a chess player you are, sooner or later the pigeon is going to knock over the chess pieces, take a dump on the board, and strut about triumphantly.