tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post8323836916887389581..comments2024-03-19T05:03:19.939-07:00Comments on Rural Revolution: Baby orchardPatrice Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06012022335047974670noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-12933501466397526942019-03-31T10:55:02.186-07:002019-03-31T10:55:02.186-07:00Try Jack Crane with Crane Backhoe & Trucking i...Try Jack Crane with Crane Backhoe & Trucking in St. Maries, 245-1863 or 582-0481 (I'll probably delete this comment after you acknowledge since I don't like posting peoples' personal info without their knowledge). Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's Jack who delivered our sand. We get it by the dump-truck-ful.<br /><br />-PatricePatrice Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012022335047974670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-92035947553981875872019-03-31T09:45:56.266-07:002019-03-31T09:45:56.266-07:00Patrice,
I’ve been going through all your tire pos...Patrice,<br />I’ve been going through all your tire posts as we are getting ready to set up the same here. We don’t live too far from you “as the crow flies”, up here in the Benewah. <br />I have followed your blog for a number of years and enjoy it immensely. <br />I have figured out who you get you tractor tires from with my experience and knowledge of the area but I do have a question. Where do you get sand from? That has proven to be a challenge. I tried to find an email address to ask you but either I’m blind or it isn’t apparent to me.<br />Thank you so much,<br />T in the Benewah Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03138786907478447523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-9324774873014374892016-05-16T22:19:32.494-07:002016-05-16T22:19:32.494-07:00For future plantings---The cardboard pots are mean...For future plantings---The cardboard pots are meant to be planted with the tree as they rapidly decompose-- or not-- they are your treesMattBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17504997985698408360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-28457107212149089212016-05-16T06:26:21.643-07:002016-05-16T06:26:21.643-07:00I would also do some guilds around the trees. I a...I would also do some guilds around the trees. I add peas for nitrogen and onions for helping with some pests. So you can grow food around them where it helps them grow too. (permaculture)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-44409727300143720102016-05-13T06:40:34.763-07:002016-05-13T06:40:34.763-07:00They're getting a lot of mileage out of those ...They're getting a lot of mileage out of those tires, so tread lightly with your comments! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-64534768445739879572016-05-12T19:08:44.982-07:002016-05-12T19:08:44.982-07:00The county in which I live, is planted in 25,000(6...The county in which I live, is planted in 25,000(61%) acres of walnuts, 11,000(17%) acres of almonds, 10,000(11%) acres of olives and 7,000(7%)acres of Prunes(Plums that are dried for prunes. Half our county is clay soil( red hard clay) that's pasture land the other half is the orchards. My husband worked for a 2200 acre almond/walnut orchard for 20 years. With that said, I know that fruit tress do not like their roots sitting in water, it causes root rot. If your clay holds water and you add sand which also holds water you may be creating a problem causing root rot. Roots tend to spread out for several feet around the trunk to support the canopy of the tree to keep it upright in the wind and the weight of the crop. All I can say now is, I sure hope it works for you. :)<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-45922153318012627352016-05-12T15:59:00.841-07:002016-05-12T15:59:00.841-07:00So cool! This is a brave venture so I look forwar...So cool! This is a brave venture so I look forward to hearing about all of the good luck with the orchard and the pitfalls. <br /><br />God Bless,<br />Janet in MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-73334024225619832672016-05-12T12:38:59.673-07:002016-05-12T12:38:59.673-07:00I don't think the tires are a good idea but ti...I don't think the tires are a good idea but time will tell. We had a small orchard here in southern Illinois, around a 1000 trees. The key to orchards and fruit trees is spraying them during the warm months about every 2 weeks. Without the proper spray the bugs will cause a lot of damage not only to the fruit but to the tree its self. Captian and sulfur are the two big chemicals used for this. Also be sure to spray before leafs come out in the spring with a oil based spray. Good luck.Randy Vickerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-72569369375487975752016-05-12T12:07:39.734-07:002016-05-12T12:07:39.734-07:00Not about the trees or anything--but when I opened...Not about the trees or anything--but when I opened up this page today I just sat and drooled for a few minutes over the picture at the top of the lovely room full of books...sigh. Is that your personal library? If so, I'm jealous. :)<br /><br />MariaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-13784312330277238062016-05-12T07:36:37.683-07:002016-05-12T07:36:37.683-07:00The black walnut is the variety that is so hard on...The black walnut is the variety that is so hard on other plants. It releases a toxin into the soil, so that nothing but weeds grows under it - can you guess how I know?! ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-80231657442717738302016-05-12T06:48:32.774-07:002016-05-12T06:48:32.774-07:00The juglone in walnut trees is not just in the lea...The juglone in walnut trees is not just in the leaves, it is in every part of the plant, including the roots. If you are able to grow tomatoes near a walnut tree, it is only because the tomato roots didn't happen to come in contact with the walnut roots. When tomatoes come into contact with walnut roots, the tomatoes wilt down and no amount of water will save them. <br /><br />Our local Extension agent told the story about an apple orchard near here that had a spot where trees always died. He got talking to an old time and discovered a walnut tree use to be in that spot. Walnut roots take a long time to decompose, and many years after the walnut tree was gone, it was still killing apple trees in the spot where it once stood.W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10397373534873519318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-23468499945031250852016-05-12T06:39:27.443-07:002016-05-12T06:39:27.443-07:00In regards to the concerns presented about the pro...In regards to the concerns presented about the problems with the trees being above ground in the tires you could remove the tires and put dirt around the trees making mounds. That would remediate the freezing and instability issues. I have seen trees planted on mounds because of water table issues and it seemed to work fine so it may work for you also.--kenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-58690565160955309392016-05-12T05:57:38.454-07:002016-05-12T05:57:38.454-07:00Best tomato plants I ever grew were less than 60 f...Best tomato plants I ever grew were less than 60 feet NE of huge Black Walnuts, my raspberries love walnuts too, I've have 29 of them in my west fence line on forty acres, all better than 36 inches across. planning to have them harvested for lumber this season, then a new barn or tractor....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-78586157349982691352016-05-12T05:39:22.623-07:002016-05-12T05:39:22.623-07:00Best of luck! We are replanting our homestead with...Best of luck! We are replanting our homestead with fruit and nut trees after devastation from oak wilt killed old, lovely trees. So, I understand the work and desire. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08747124252503023570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-10936056729114257722016-05-12T04:54:34.043-07:002016-05-12T04:54:34.043-07:00Tires are a bad idea for trees, 1 because of root ...Tires are a bad idea for trees, 1 because of root girdling and 2 the heat and cold extremes on the root system, dig a hole 2 to 3x the size of the potted tree, replace soil if need and water..... Sorry Don, Bad Idea... just trying to save you heart ache and work...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-48487778840625833312016-05-12T04:46:44.028-07:002016-05-12T04:46:44.028-07:00You are wrong, I mow under mine every week....You are wrong, I mow under mine every week....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-32036141950526508892016-05-12T04:30:22.085-07:002016-05-12T04:30:22.085-07:00Very ingenious approach to dealing with clay soil ...Very ingenious approach to dealing with clay soil (if it can be called that!) My property is the same, clay and slit from a lake 1000s of years gone. As already pointed out, walnut trees are allelopathic. The responsible toxin is juglone and is spread through the leaves of the tree. Depending on the particular plant, over time juglone will stop all fruit, flowering, even growth within the surrounding area. In my area, the recommendation is don't plant anything you want to fruit or flower closer than 150 feet radius of a walnut tree. The walnut tree is native to my state. As for planting above ground, I would recommend you start planning how you are going to permanently support the trees over their life. As the trees grow, the canape and fruit will have considerable weight and also present a surface area that will create considerable increasing horizontal force as the wind blows. Think of a 20 foot pole in the ground with a satellite dish on top... maybe 6 square foot surface area presented to the wind. A base of at least 3ft x 3ft x 4ft would be needed to keep it from blowing over. While fruit trees may be shallow rooted, they do send roots out a considerable distance for moisture, food and anchoring. They are tiny, but in large numbers. <br /><br />George<br />OhioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-15331972092331338372016-05-12T04:11:21.929-07:002016-05-12T04:11:21.929-07:00That should be, "If things don't work...That should be, "If things don't work...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-1773791115879331322016-05-11T22:50:34.862-07:002016-05-11T22:50:34.862-07:00We had two walnut trees in our yard when I was a k...We had two walnut trees in our yard when I was a kid. The grass grew green and lush under both of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-72753147236257406602016-05-11T20:45:40.511-07:002016-05-11T20:45:40.511-07:00I hope they make it, what a lot of work. Were in C...I hope they make it, what a lot of work. Were in Central Wa and don't have that hardpan in our yard. Jo in WaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-17087139859688456012016-05-11T20:09:25.409-07:002016-05-11T20:09:25.409-07:00I can almost taste that sun ripen peach...for now ...I can almost taste that sun ripen peach...for now I just dream. I recently read an article on supporting trees and it stated that once the tree started new roots it was best to let nature run it's course. Trees without support developed stronger roots and branches because of the effects of the wind.<br /><br />Maybe you can find information online. I think it might have been in Countryside or ? but I'm sure it will be online too. We often think we are helping when the opposite is true.<br /><br />I enjoy your blog and will be thinking of you when I search out the perfect peach this summer.<br />Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11463432698449442807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-15331901312916662442016-05-11T19:16:38.902-07:002016-05-11T19:16:38.902-07:00So the tire experiment keeps rolling along...
If ...So the tire experiment keeps rolling along...<br /><br />If the trees survive and thrive do you anticipate cutting away the tires in a few years?Mark Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01182556107525541719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-47939023205611763322016-05-11T18:25:04.382-07:002016-05-11T18:25:04.382-07:00Seems pretty well thought out. But I am disappoin...Seems pretty well thought out. But I am disappointed: As the story progressed, I was anticipating you using dynamite to bust up the hardpan. I was kinda disappointed there were no explosives involved. (Sigh...)<br /><br /><br />Steve Davis<br />Anchorage, AlaskaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-1986518215934449362016-05-11T18:07:11.496-07:002016-05-11T18:07:11.496-07:00Patrice, this will be very interesting to see how ...Patrice, this will be very interesting to see how your experiment works out. Conventional wisdom says that if you baby the roots too much, they won't expand out of the amended area. Also, having their roots aboveground may make them more susceptible to damage in the winter from the cold. But it may turn out that planting them in tires actually works great! <br /><br />You were very smart to plant the walnuts well away from everything else. Walnut trees are allelopathic, which is why as another commenter noted, grass and other plants tend not to grow under walnut trees. But as I recall, you were a forestry major in college, so you probably already know that!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07619252000101385297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-64017214108131734922016-05-11T17:05:58.949-07:002016-05-11T17:05:58.949-07:00Great job. Well done. To tie the trees up use 2...Great job. Well done. To tie the trees up use 2 foot pieces of old garden hose over the ropes where they pass over the trees.--kenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com