tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post758424296272408590..comments2024-03-28T05:59:04.687-07:00Comments on Rural Revolution: Fight or flight?Patrice Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06012022335047974670noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-58536287376733160082013-05-05T12:59:59.273-07:002013-05-05T12:59:59.273-07:00That has always been on my mind brother. We swore ...That has always been on my mind brother. We swore an oath to protect this country against all enemies Foriegn AND domestic. Seems to me there are alot of people that fall into that second category and most of them are supposed to be on our side (politicians) Keep prayin!<br />jim hathewayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08177325057401860814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-63977450762509992842013-05-05T12:53:12.628-07:002013-05-05T12:53:12.628-07:00As a Marine (out 20 + years) I won't leave. I ...As a Marine (out 20 + years) I won't leave. I can't too many of my brothers and sisters in arms have given the last final measure, to keep us free. I believe alot has to do with perception. The media likes to make people believe that EVERYONE feels a certain way about topic A,B,or c.When most of us in flyover country DO NOT . They think that most people are sheep and will just say well, if everyone supports Obamas agenda maybe I should. At least thats my view. Personally I truly believe we are all here for a purpose I think this country is Gods chosen one. And that we have a covenant with him. I also believe that the lefts agenda (culture of death etc..) Will be their downfall. I think this country is really filled with alot more wonderful people than the media allows you to see. Remember, "If it bleeds it leads" So I think if we just all tow the line and inform those in washington and locally of our wishes, eventually their DESIRE to stay in office will sway them. Remember one minute the Tea party is dead, the next we are ruining Washington! Haha so just keep fighting , keep your powder dry and rifles oiled.I guess basically if you have faith USE IT.jim hathewayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08177325057401860814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-77650191172544682242013-05-05T12:16:03.658-07:002013-05-05T12:16:03.658-07:00@Navy91, I completely understand! Our family is st...@Navy91, I completely understand! Our family is stuck right now and working on getting to a more rural area. It's hard when surrounded by sheeple who don't care but take heart, there are patriots all across this land who are preparing. <br /><br />I'm glad you didn't take offense to my comments. I truly believe that very soon a loaf of bread or gallon of milk will be worth gold. Those that are prepared will survive and unfortunately many others will perish.<br /><br />Good luck to you and may God keep you safe in the coming years. Take care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-70571532508396807992013-05-05T10:26:22.246-07:002013-05-05T10:26:22.246-07:00Hubby and I have discussed at length if we should ...Hubby and I have discussed at length if we should abandon California and move to the Redoubt, or Tennessee or Texas, etc. We will most likely stay in CA. This is our home, this is where we grew up and have many relatives and friends.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06363532651622078445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-43847756528120141002013-05-05T08:27:36.818-07:002013-05-05T08:27:36.818-07:00The question, "Where do we want to be?" ...The question, "Where do we want to be?" is one that most of us focus on and struggle with. That said, perhaps an equally relevant question is, "Whom do we want to be with?"<br />Montana GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-16042546611554756472013-05-04T12:42:09.337-07:002013-05-04T12:42:09.337-07:00Having spent time in the following countries in th...Having spent time in the following countries in the last 10ys I can tell you that America still IS the best and IS worth fighting for!<br />Germany, Switzerland, Italy, England, Czech Republic, Israel, Luxemburg, Belgium, France, Crete, Kuwait, Austria, Bahrain, Holland, and Qatar.<br />If we can't save the country then we need to annex a portion of it because there is no where else to go.<br /><br />-An Old SoldierAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-47181090942217457232013-05-04T09:35:57.695-07:002013-05-04T09:35:57.695-07:00I don't think the people of the "redoubt&...I don't think the people of the "redoubt" think they are "safe", I think they just want to live in communities of people with similar mindsets. That's the biggest part of why I'm making a move to the country. Navy91noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-67659287543935564442013-05-04T09:26:13.457-07:002013-05-04T09:26:13.457-07:00Point well taken. Didn't mean to get all work...Point well taken. Didn't mean to get all worked up yesterday. I had a few other things to push my buttons yesterday as well. <br /><br />I read this blog on a daily basis for the same reasons you do. And, REALLY all I want is to live a simple self sufficient life as well. I'm working on moving out to the country myself. It is so much more peaceful and pleasant! I have a place picked out already, just gonna take a few months to get my ducks in a row to make the move. I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to getting (partially) out of the "rat race"!<br /><br />Now I'm rambling. It's easy to do these days. Especially when I can talk to people like you and Mrs. Lewis that make me think, and provide points of view I hadn't thought about. Especially ones like yours that make perfect sense! :) Most of what I run into around here are people who could care less.<br /><br />MarkNavy91noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-79989845087554753912013-05-04T05:29:03.874-07:002013-05-04T05:29:03.874-07:00@Navy91, Like I said before I get what you're ...@Navy91, Like I said before I get what you're saying. I have always known that it will have to be guerilla fighting. Lessons learned from the Revolutionary War:). <br /><br />BUT....it won't have to come to this. They can eliminate people without shooting a single round. How? <br /><br />By freezing their bank accounts, seizing assets, arresting the head of the home (aka bread winner) while he's at work, they can take your children away or bankrupt your parents, siblings and friends by simply alleging you are a "terrorist"...a homegrown one of course<br /><br />Again all I hear from you is weapons and fighting but what is an army supposed to live on? <br /><br />Can your climate support you and the other patriots there? Yes, I know you probably have stored food and MRE's but how long can that last you? 1,2, maybe 3 years. Food is crucial and growing it is a must but other than this blog I don't hear a lot about the subject. <br /><br />That's why I love this blog. It seems balanced to me. I have no doubt this wonderful family is prepared in other ways but it seems their focus is on living a simple self sufficient life and loving their girls. That's why I read Mrs. Lewis religiously.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-87785271604115909012013-05-03T23:13:39.536-07:002013-05-03T23:13:39.536-07:00Interesting comments everyone. It's late, so f...Interesting comments everyone. It's late, so forgive me if I ramble.<br /><br />To make any kind of change regarding the policies or politics of any given group, you must first kill the idea. You kill the idea from the inside by making small changes. One at a time until by the end, the whole idea has been altered from the original. Thinking about it, the same thing would have to be accomplished to reverse it, it would have to be another "inside job" so to speak.<br /><br />Running from a problem doesn't lessen the problem, problems always seem to find you wherever you go. Face them head on and deal with them as best you can. Including the ones you can see looming up over your head in the night. Sometimes the best you can do is survive everything, because as they say - the winner gets to write the history books.<br /><br />Snowmen in May, who'd a thunk it. The current weather pattern is depressing, snow, rain, warm - repeat.<br /><br />I keep playing Simon and Garfunkle's "The Sound of Silence" to and from work. Sometimes you just can't reach everyone, no matter how hard you try. In the end you also have to remember - not everyone wants to be saved either.<br /><br />Keep the Faith.<br /><br />JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-82425706450900736382013-05-03T20:51:02.084-07:002013-05-03T20:51:02.084-07:00I have lived in Europe, Asia and the middle East. ...I have lived in Europe, Asia and the middle East. There is nowhere to go. Rights recognized by the governments in those places are few and far between and Americans are generally despised.<br /><br />While some in the military will follow orders ifit ccomes to it, many won't.<br /><br /> And if the "redoubt" somehow thinks they are safe, they are idiots. It will be one of the first places bombed into oblivion. You pretend to think you are prepared and too spread out to be targets. You are deluding yourselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-51765027968654989432013-05-03T20:05:28.138-07:002013-05-03T20:05:28.138-07:00Yes, it could be like shooting fish in a barrel. ...Yes, it could be like shooting fish in a barrel. That is why I said the ensuing insurgency would make Fallujah look like a walk in the park. There are many who will simply refuse to leave. They will act as partisans, freedom fighters, guerillas, insurgents take your pick. The point is, the Patriots of the redoubt will not be alone. It's awfully hard to shoot the fish in the barrel when someone is constantly blowing something up, shooting at you from behind, disrupting your supply lines, cutting off utilities, sniping and/or assassinating commanding officers, elected officials, etc. You can believe that when the commanding officers of units that break their oaths and go after Patriots have to start putting their own in body bags, because they were "just following orders", it won't be so easy to shoot the fish in the barrel. When command and control personnel start disappearing and/or dropping like flies, it becomes harder and harder to make the machine work. Cut the head off and the body dies. <br /><br />I have no illusions about how terrible this all could get. I just hope that the powers that be understand just how terrible this all could get. NO ONE WITH ANY SANITY WANTS TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD! Millions will die. I don't want to be a part of that, but I will not stand idly by and let them take freedom away from the world... not without trying in any way I can, to stop them.Navy91noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-29933300066050121742013-05-03T19:27:53.388-07:002013-05-03T19:27:53.388-07:00As an expat, I can make a couple of comments, I li...As an expat, I can make a couple of comments, I live in Asia, Hong Kong to be specific. As far as the USA falling apart. Yes, it is and the reality is that the US is a special case because it has been blessed a lot and to whom much has been given, much is expected.....We have not delivered....so there is a BIG judgment in store for us. There is no getting around that. I used to be in the flight camp as I saw, to an extent, this stuff coming when I moved offshore in 2006. I figured that if I could attach myself to the "world economy" I'd do better than attached to the US. So far, that mantra has worked as I've done very well over here. <br /><br />Since then, my perceptions have changed. First and foremost, I am convinced that we are approaching the big climax of history here and there is nowhere really "safe". The big reason for this is that the attitudes that are bringing this mess, are prevalent all over the world. The rest of the west is just as morally bankrupt as the US, perhaps more so. The Asian system is built on sweeping things under the rug to save face(that approach is doomed, we all know that). We don't even need to go into the Islamic world. The ruler of this world has done an excellent job of turning this place upside down and everywhere is preparing to reap the whirlwind. Who knows where will be safe.....<br /><br />As for me, I have always aimed towards a "flight motive" my chosen "escape" has been a boat. Sail around and wander to wherever the safe harbor du jour is. Buying a homestead(yes, I've thought about that, too. Hence why I'm on this site) is the same idea as the motive is the same, protecting ones family from this mess. However, the reality is that this, taken to extremes, a flawed motive. Our job, as Christians is to stand for Christ and "save souls", you can't do that by running away. You can do it from anywhere. Soooo, if you are called to be where you are by all means stay there, and work for His kingdom from there. If you are not called to be there, move and work for His kingdom from there. Running to safety, is both futile and counterproductive to what needs to be done. <br /><br />Now while I say the above, and that certainly should be the driver, there is practical advice to give. I still have my plans to either move about on a boat, or buy a farm and disappear, and I still have my opinions on the "safest option" to deal with things....But I try not to be driven by them.....a city of 7 million people that can't change a light bulb without assistance is not a safe place to be in any calamity and I'm actively trying to get out. But I will stay if it be His will.....<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-40304724110146087232013-05-03T19:20:28.226-07:002013-05-03T19:20:28.226-07:00WOW. That took me a bit. Well worth it.WOW. That took me a bit. Well worth it.MrCachethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17380421021822593083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-67512752035647962612013-05-03T17:18:03.016-07:002013-05-03T17:18:03.016-07:00Me, too. Self-segregation just facilitates perse...Me, too. Self-segregation just facilitates persecution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-3672650174969416252013-05-03T16:36:37.080-07:002013-05-03T16:36:37.080-07:00This is my country!!! I will stand and fight!!!
S...This is my country!!! I will stand and fight!!!<br />SueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-79784580507579421602013-05-03T15:46:52.548-07:002013-05-03T15:46:52.548-07:00The real question isn't is there a better plac...The real question isn't is there a better place, but the question really is can we win? Can we change our country to a place where freedom, liberty, and justice rule again? I am of the opinion that it can not. Every bell weather and indication is pointing to the fact that america has passed the point of no return. No civilization has ever come back once it passes certain thresholds.<br /><br />This is an unfortunate fact. I love my country, I love the land and the history, but what I often ask myself is if I want my children to be raised to be slaves in a cesspit. Or risk the ultimate for them to know true freedom.<br /><br />Our fore fathers left their homelands because they realized that their culture was too far gone for them to change. They risked death in a hundred ways to have a chance at controlling their own lives and many did die.<br /><br />But there is no country that is free like america. Even with our freedom's being whittled away other countries are worse. So what is the solution? If we fight we will die, that all their is to it. And our culture is now entrenched in socialism so another great awakening is not going to happen.<br /><br />I think the island idea is the only real option.hearthkeeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07925955664581851860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-65623854013482332432013-05-03T15:10:22.008-07:002013-05-03T15:10:22.008-07:00I live in Alaska, and yes, a lot of us are liberty...I live in Alaska, and yes, a lot of us are liberty-minded. BUT you have no idea how liberal our largest city, Anchorage (and suburbs), is along with their liberal rag of a newspaper and their television stations!<br /><br />There are lots of folks who have moved here from CA and WA, the two big liberal western states. In addition to that, we are having a huge influx -or invasion - of legal immigrants resettled here by the U.N. -mainly Russians or former Russian territory citizens and eastern Europeans. I mean, we are being over-run.<br /><br />Those of us who are conservative and live here have to be watchful every minute not to let the liberals get the better of us. <br /><br />I'd like to believe we are "the last frontier", but times have been changing even here for the last two decades. There literally is no place left to run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-13739609721235736172013-05-03T15:01:18.903-07:002013-05-03T15:01:18.903-07:00Kinda what I was thinking...Kinda what I was thinking...chipmunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01341260129072773457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-79697621923943309162013-05-03T13:09:13.028-07:002013-05-03T13:09:13.028-07:00This question reflects what I have just seen in th...This question reflects what I have just seen in the PBS rebroadcast of "The Dust Bowl." <br /><br />(Though, I ultimately found the second half to be more "Liberal Commentary" than "Documentary," I did learn a lot otherwise.)<br /><br />I learned that even when the Dust Bowl in the Southern Great Plains was at its worst, it was 25%-30% that actually fled when they were eventually wiped out. Not the total, mass exodus I thought it was. That means over 70% STAYED to stick it out and work on a solution. <br /><br />Some of the eye witnesses who stayed remarked that there was no where else that they would consider home, no matter how much of a beating they were taking. They refused to be beaten forever. <br /><br />And of those who fled, many eventually came back!<br /><br />Home is a powerful pull. This is my home.<br /><br />Just MeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-10678778274056441742013-05-03T12:54:37.824-07:002013-05-03T12:54:37.824-07:00The same question everyone else is asking: Where w...The same question everyone else is asking: Where would you go? There's no place left to run. <br /><br />There's another blog I frequent where another poster who had lived all his life in Philadelphia recalled all the neighborhoods he had lived in. He had moved from Southwest Philly to West Philly to Oxford Circle to Fox Chase. For those unfamiliar with Philadelphia, Southwest and West Philly and Oxford Circle are areas that went from decent livable neighborhoods to crime-ridden ghettos 10-15 years apart. Fox Chase is a neighborhood in Northeast Philly where the cops live. This poster stated he's not going to spend the rest of his life in a race with the ghetto. This time he's taking a stand. <br /><br />If I was still single and didn't have a wife and daughter to worry about I'd stay like he is. But apply that to the national level. Someone can move from one section of America to another, but liberty has to take a stand somewhere. And since the Orwellian nanny state can't sustain itself forever the whole system will have to come crashing down. When it does, we'll hit the reset button and rebuild this nation according to Constitutional principles.<br /><br />Jay from Phillynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-62889692693307727562013-05-03T12:34:31.254-07:002013-05-03T12:34:31.254-07:00@Montana Guy, I understand what you are trying to ...@Montana Guy, I understand what you are trying to say but let's be real here. If a young housewife like myself knows about the Redoubt don't you think the gov't knows too? <br /><br />Of course you do, that's why you are prepared to fight. And fighting is one thing I here a lot of people in the Redoubt talking about but I don't hear a lot of them talking about food. Can your climate support all those patriots?<br /><br />What about your arms? Can you resist bombs falling from the sky or chemical welfare? I'm just saying the stuff that other blogs have said, I don't personally think it will come to that but how can you resist that?<br /><br />No offense here but I'm getting tired of folks in the Redoubt acting like they are our great savior and when the SHTF then you up there won't need us. I think that if every freedom loving person moved there it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-50921441400447953212013-05-03T12:16:15.096-07:002013-05-03T12:16:15.096-07:00As others have said, the USA is far from perfect -...As others have said, the USA is far from perfect - but its better than anywhere else! <br />My suggestion and plan is to move rural, far enough away that as budgets continue to shrink they won't bother me. "The Illuminati" and "The Thor Conspriacy" by Larry Burkett are great examples of how Christians can have hope in a dystopian future of ever more regulation and control. <br />You may not know that even at the height of the Soviet Union there were large parts of the country that still had private gun ownership - most often for hunting and wild animal protection, but in some remote areas because the government didn't care since the people took care of themselves.<br />JAHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-90143579017887164202013-05-03T11:45:01.150-07:002013-05-03T11:45:01.150-07:00Heather 'gets it'. I'd encourage her t...Heather 'gets it'. I'd encourage her to do what our family did. As to the choice of 'Fight or Flight',. I say do both. We voted with our feet and moved 2,500 miles to the American Redoubt. Patriotism and Christianity still reign here. It was like moving back to America. We arrived here as nothing less than political and religious refuges. Folks here are God-fearing and yes, they are prepared to fight for God-given liberty.<br /><br />Our 5-State area may appear to be weak but don't be fooled. There are MANY Patriots like Navy91 here. They will be Oath-Keepers, not oath-breakers. Also, just north of the American Redoubt lays British Columbia, Alberta and Alaska blessed with a bounty of liberty-minded people and natural resources. They could become 'game-changers'.<br />Montana Guy<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-72163225673695149882013-05-03T11:42:59.584-07:002013-05-03T11:42:59.584-07:00If we loose freedom here, there is NO place to esc...If we loose freedom here, there is NO place to escape to. <br />This is the last stand ON EARTH.<br />Ronald Reagan<br />The ballot box and the soap box don't seem to be working.....<br />Poll shows 29 percent of voters think 'armed revolution' might be needed<br />Published May 02, 2013 FoxNews.com<br /><br />According to a survey from Fairleigh Dickinson University, nearly a third of registered voters -- 29 percent -- believe an "armed revolution" might be necessary in the next few years in order to protect liberties. <br /><br />Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/poll-shows-2-percent-voters-think-armed-revolution-might-be-needed/#ixzz2SFxYWsd3<br /><br />JW MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com