tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post6892529491311570060..comments2024-03-18T15:02:43.329-07:00Comments on Rural Revolution: "This crazy fanatical obsession with guns"Patrice Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06012022335047974670noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-58163068800791104062014-08-08T18:01:30.023-07:002014-08-08T18:01:30.023-07:00To Quedula and the Canadian chick who is not well,...To Quedula and the Canadian chick who is not well, I just found this blog yeaterday and want to give a viewpoint from an Aussie, and help out my American brothers and sisters, Australian murder/gun deaths are higher per 100,000 than the USA, according to the Australian Bureau of criminology the stats for murders within the whole of Australia for 2013 was 1,497 in total, Australia has a population of just on 23.7 million, multiply the population 15 times and you will come to a quick conclusion that the homicide rate for my country is higher than the total rate for the USA. <br /><br />For example, drive by shootings in Australias most populous city ( Sydney 4.8 million people ) occured in 2013 at the rate of 2.4 perweek, hardly the crime free paradise that people paint.<br /><br />the population has been disarmed to a certain extent, but there has been an uptick in people who own firearms in Australia, the recent figures show about 6.7 million gun owners, that of course does not include the ones owned by people who refused to comply the Federal govt buyback in 1997. <br /><br />In a recent survey it has shown of a random sampling of 2,000 people on the street that about 72 percent of people carry knives for one reason or another. <br /><br />Again hardly the paradise the people overseas think it is. <br /><br /><br />Regards <br /><br /><br />WolfgangAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-70138733652651782362012-11-12T05:39:54.014-08:002012-11-12T05:39:54.014-08:00If your house is being broken into you're goin...If your house is being broken into you're going to call someone with a gun, and pray they get there in time. Studies show that private citizens are far better shooters, the police causing more collateral damage while using a firearm.<br /><br />"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams, 1776Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-90077405216941820062011-11-03T11:52:58.918-07:002011-11-03T11:52:58.918-07:00I presently live in the UK but have lived and work...I presently live in the UK but have lived and work in the US for a number of years.<br />Foreigners who live in countries generally without guns have difficulty understanding the US desire for guns.<br />Statistics show that deaths by guns are much much higher in the US than in the UK, Germany, Japan, Australia *per head of population*.<br />Either easy availability of guns leads to higher gun crime or Americans are just more homicidal than the rest of the world. Pick one but don't try and pretend neither is the case.<br /><br />Rural protection and hunting aside, why do suburban dwellers want guns?<br />Given the number of guns in America I can see the desire to have a gun to protect you and yours. Given the scarcity of guns in gun control countries I can see the benefits of not having them, until you encounter the rare criminal who does have one.<br /><br />The founding fathers never could have imagined a world where technology had moved on to the point where a militia was of only limited (but still some) benefit to an army who have to be full time to train with the technically complex weapons systems that they have today. <br /><br />Democrats see only the harm guns do and want to remove them while ignoring the benefits of an armed society.<br />Republicans see only their 'rite' to have them and try and ignore the undesirable consequences.<br /><br />If TSHTF I'll be glad to be in a country where raiders are almost certainly unarmed.<br />If TSHTS when I'm in America I'm going to wish I had a gun (and was proficient in its use) because many raiders will be armed. <br /><br /> @Tina Nov 23 2010 @ 6:17<br />It is possible to own a gun in the UK but you have to show a need for it (such as a farmer) and the type of gun is very limited (double barrel shotgun). No semi-automic hunting rifles.<br />A general citizen struggles to get permission to own a gun. <br />Handguns are very difficult to get permission to own unless you are in a 'special' profession (prison guards sometimes get visits from ex-inmates in the middle of the night)<br /><br />As far as deaths by car are concerned we all accept the dangers of cars but accept the benefits of quick convenient travel to outweigh them. The benefits of guns are less easily justified.Survival Skvesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-24434176087354061972010-11-30T14:28:06.422-08:002010-11-30T14:28:06.422-08:00AP I thank you for walking point and giving us the...AP I thank you for walking point and giving us the heads up about the "Imo' blog." <br /><br />When folks like that start slinging their nasty stuff at folks like us it serves as a great reminder that the guilty dog barks first.<br /><br />A.McSpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-79210416470183451872010-11-29T00:42:49.780-08:002010-11-29T00:42:49.780-08:00G'morning AP. I'm surprised you didn't...G'morning AP. I'm surprised you didn't let Anonymous, Nov 24,5.33PM answer for him/herself and give me the chance to argue with someone different. <br /><br />Since you ask, yes, I've always enjoyed my visits to the USA but they were some years ago now but I certainly wasn't aware of the gun death statistics at the time. If I had known I wouldn't have taken a gun, I would have gone to Australia or New Zealand instead.quedulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737971867539674984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-55974919951513432422010-11-28T10:42:23.093-08:002010-11-28T10:42:23.093-08:00To our little British hanger-on:
Please point out...To our little British hanger-on:<br /><br />Please point out exactly where Anonymous November 24, 5:53pm ever used data from the NRA. He never did. Instead, he said the FACTS came from the FBI, and were supported by the NRA. Big difference, don't you see that? Please don't try to distort what others say here, to do so is a cheap trick.<br /><br />Let me add a little more fuel to this fire. Not only have communities seen a reduction in violent crime when law-abiding citizens are free to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, but the Supreme Court lent its weight to this debate a year ago when it agreed with a resident of our nation's capital and decreed that Washington, DC did not have the authority to deny a man's right to defend himself with his own gun. So, you lose...again.<br /><br />I find it rather contradictory of you that you visited America (the West, if I remember correctly) in spite of the fact that we are "gun-loving violent redneck pistol-packing lunatics" as our fans like to refer to us. How could you have risked your life like that? Was the trip worth it? Were gun-crazed Americans pointing rifles at you during your entire trip? How many dead bodies did you count in our streets? Surely, since there are so many of us running around with guns hanging from our gunbelts, you saw some violence up close and personal. You did, didn't you? If not, then perhaps you are just trying to stir up trouble here, which is apparently your stock in trade.<br /><br />Have a great day, and I hope your cat can protect you from harm. <br /><br />Anonymoous Patriot<br />USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-20228767222463553242010-11-27T21:48:30.333-08:002010-11-27T21:48:30.333-08:00To Anonymous, Nov 24,5.33PM: NRA? So, data garnere...To Anonymous, Nov 24,5.33PM: NRA? So, data garnered by the NRA is supposed to be the absolute truth?quedulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737971867539674984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-24321005994556511832010-11-27T20:51:29.847-08:002010-11-27T20:51:29.847-08:00HAH! I haven't even gotten warmed up yet - giv...HAH! I haven't even gotten warmed up yet - give me time and I'll really let loose. If you had seen what I saw on her blog, you'd be ticked off, too. Coming here and accusing us of all kinds of things when it was she all along who was guilty of those things. Sheesh, the audacity of some people. <br /><br />Hang on, it's going to be a bumpy landing. <br /><br />-APAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-58200569068288397252010-11-27T18:36:34.396-08:002010-11-27T18:36:34.396-08:00Now if we could just get AP to say what she really...Now if we could just get AP to say what she really thinks.....! LOL Love ya, Sis!<br /><br />I sleep a lot better knowing I'm surrounded by God-loving neighbors who are armed to the teeth.<br /><br />A.McSpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-30368049754083896942010-11-24T17:53:04.461-08:002010-11-24T17:53:04.461-08:00To quedula: Wiki? So, data garnered from Wiki is s...To quedula: Wiki? So, data garnered from Wiki is supposed to be the absolute truth? They claimed WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah is a homosexual, along with many other lies. He changed the info and made it correct and TRUE, they changed it back to their original lies. Mr. Farah is a decent, honorable Christian man. Last I heard, he's suing them. Like I said, statistics are statistics. You can make them say whatever you want. FACT: Like I said, in cities, towns and states in the USA where gun ownership is allowed, the crime rate has been PROVED to be much lower than in areas where guns are banned. This FACT comes directly from our FBI. The NRA also has proof that this is true, as do many other organizations. So your "simplest interpretation is that more gun ownership leads to more shootings" is in total error, if not a bold-faced lie! You want to be treated fairly and without rudeness, but your attitude and opinions are why you're treated the way you are, and you know it. Will you give it a rest and go bother someone else for a change? You're becoming a bore and a nuisance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-32469115122353818162010-11-24T15:22:06.554-08:002010-11-24T15:22:06.554-08:00There are many decent, conserative Canadians who d...There are many decent, conserative Canadians who dislike what is happening to their nation just as we Americans dislike what is happening to ours. Those Canadians are not happy with the loss of their gun rights. Those Canadians don't deserve our scorn, nor should we lump them into the same pot as we would put impoguemahone. I won't sterotype an entire nation based on one hate-filled, anti-American, anti-semetic, hypocrite like her. <br /><br />As her own husband said, according to her own words on her own blog, she cannot get along with anyone. Little wonder. <br /><br />The truth is, she is the racist. She is the hater. She is the loudmouth. She is the culture-basher. She is the one who gives her country a black eye. She is a hypocrite and a flamer. <br /><br />Impoguemahone, I know what your screen name means and to you I say...no thanks, but you can kiss mine. xoxox <br /><br />To Anonymous November 24, 1:18pm, I have met many of those Canadian snowbirds you mentioned. I think they come mostly from Toronto or Quebec because they all have that same attitude. They live 6 months of the year in America and every day of those 6 months they tell us how awful America is. To those Canadians I say, go home and stay there. Live in your own country for a change. <br /> <br />Anonymous Patriot<br />USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-10028483028925741472010-11-24T13:18:50.526-08:002010-11-24T13:18:50.526-08:00Impoguemahone:
After reading the crap ...Impoguemahone:<br /> After reading the crap you call a blog and finding out what you truly are please do us Americans a favor. Stay north of the border. We have enough aliens now overloading our supposed rotten medical system and we do not need any canucks coming down to supplement that socialist medical care you have up there. But explain to me why is it most of you northern moochers live within 100 miles of our common border? I have lived almost all my life either in close proximity to canada (Buffalo N.Y. area) or in Florida where we are invaded yearly by canadian snobirds. Not all, but most are arrogant, condescending fools who should stay out of our racist gun toting country. We do not need you as a nation as much as you need us. Only thing that was ever worth anything is the beer you brew!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-50113306354384684532010-11-24T10:19:34.878-08:002010-11-24T10:19:34.878-08:00“A free people ought not only to be armed and disc...“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” George Washington. Credit the citation to Walter at http://sugarmtnfarm.com/ JenniferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-15683608901092263102010-11-24T04:22:08.792-08:002010-11-24T04:22:08.792-08:00Anonymous at 4.33pm yesterday. The statistics I qu...Anonymous at 4.33pm yesterday. The statistics I quoted are from Wiki. If they had been manipulated I am sure someone in the US gun lobby would have pointed it out by now. The simplest interpretation is that more gun ownership leads to more shootings. I sought to make no other point. If there is a different interpretation I look forward to hearing it.<br /><br />Yes, I know the USA is more populous than the UK; that's why the figures are quoted per head of population.quedulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737971867539674984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-5507866023485367632010-11-23T21:33:26.288-08:002010-11-23T21:33:26.288-08:00In the USA, people do die from gunshots. That'...In the USA, people do die from gunshots. That's a fact. The stats show this occurs most often in some of the most highly regulated gunownership areas, such as Oakland, California, Chicago, Illinois, and Washington, DC. That should indicate how useless gun control is. Criminals and gangbangers will always own guns. Since our police officers have been greatly restricted in their use of force, they have become generally rendered impotent when it comes to protecting the public. As a result of this leftwing emasculating of our law enforcement, citizens have availed themselves of the RIGHT to own guns for self-protection, as well as for hunting and sport shooting (skeet, trap, etc.). The overwhelming majority of American gunowners never point a gun at a human being, and therefore never have to shoot at someone. Those 1.5 - 2.0 million Americans (out of an estimated 60 million gunowners) who do brandish their guns for protection seldom have to shoot their weapons. Usually a criminal will run away when he knows his intended victim is armed and trained. On the rare occasions a law-abiding citizen must fire a gun in self-defense, the criminal won't be hurting anybody ever again. <br /><br />As for guns being "killing machines," of course they are. They were invented to kill, for meat or for war or for defense. Whatever the reason, their purpose is indeed to kill. Yet, despite that fact, more automobiles kill people than do guns in America. And isn't it ironic that medical care accounts for more avoidable deaths than do cars or guns. <br /><br />It seems the paranoia lies with those who live in countries where guns are restricted to the point of being effectively illegal to own for most people. You are afraid of guns, yet you know very little about the TRUTH of gun ownership as practiced by law-abiding citizens. It has never been, and will never be, that the average gun-owning citizen is to be feared. Instead, it is far more realistic to fear those who are criminals and who know you are unarmed. If you find yourself in a situation like that, you better pray (oops, I mean hope) somebody with a conscience and a gun comes to your rescue. <br /><br />As for America being violent, even knives are illegal for most Britons to own now. I guess Brits can't trust their countrymen to leave the knives in their pockets when a fight breaks out. So, which society really is more violent? For all intents and purposes, guns are outlawed and so are knives in Britain. Based on those details, it appears Britain has become a land of "violent yahoos," eh impoguemahone?? ROFLOL <br /><br />Anonymous Patriot<br />USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-88548206746787602772010-11-23T20:21:54.071-08:002010-11-23T20:21:54.071-08:00Tina, no one would suggest outlawing cars in the U...Tina, no one would suggest outlawing cars in the USA even though road deaths per capita are nearly 4 times those in the UK. Cars serve a useful, necessary purpose and unlike guns, aren't designed as killing machines.<br /><br />Only fully automatic & burst fire guns are prohibited in the UK. There are some other restrictions on pistols I believe. Ownership of all other firearms is subject to strict licensing & control.quedulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737971867539674984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-58969670791367589632010-11-23T20:06:49.078-08:002010-11-23T20:06:49.078-08:00Tina, the biggest single killer in the UK and Cana...Tina, the biggest single killer in the UK and Canada are their health care systems. They would be better off to outlaw their health care and make gun ownership legal again. <br /><br />Just an observation from a "war-mongering" "yahoo", as impoquemahone would call me. LOL <br /><br />Anonymous Patriot<br />USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-8851215066826589482010-11-23T19:49:46.171-08:002010-11-23T19:49:46.171-08:00Apparently Impoguemahone doesn't like American...Apparently Impoguemahone doesn't like Americans or America. Here's how she really feels about us, from her own weblog. http://impoguemahone.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/anti-americanism/ <br /><br />The truth will out, impoguemahone, and the truth is you are an American-basher. Who would have guessed?? lol<br />Phoney as they come and as obvious as they get, that's you. <br /><br />Just like another person who likes to poke us with a stick, impoguemahone has a low-traffic blog (I'm being generous when I say "low-traffic," it's more like no traffic), she is using Patrice's blog to attract some visitors to her blog. It's a cheap tactic and will only work for so long, before we get tired of the same old ridicule, accusations, falsehoods, and progressive BS. <br /><br />Visit her blog soon, before it completely changes in order to hide what she's been saying about America, or it fades into oblivion. <br /><br />Hey, impoguemahone, perhaps you'd like to have Mexico as your neighbor to the south instead of the USA??? :P Or maybe Venezuela? <br /><br />I suggest you study the Romn Republic, turned Empire, and the Dark Ages. Then perhaps you will have a better perspective about just what has been holding the world together, albeit tenuously, and what may happen to the world if/when my "imperialistic" nation ends. IOW, be careful what you wish for. <br /><br />Anonymous Patriot<br />USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-62312837762205389802010-11-23T18:17:54.895-08:002010-11-23T18:17:54.895-08:00Quedula , please correct me if I am wrong ( since...Quedula , please correct me if I am wrong ( since I know you will any way) is it not illegal to own a gun in the UK ? I do think it is .Also...what are the stat's for deaths in car accidents ? MORE , so lets get with your program and outlaw cars. <br /><br />TinaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-81505035470193568272010-11-23T17:44:34.476-08:002010-11-23T17:44:34.476-08:00Impoguemahone, where did I ever insult another cul...Impoguemahone, where did I ever insult another culture, any race, or nation? Please cite my offense before you make your accusations. You cannot cite any such offenses because I NEVER did those things of which you accuse me. <br /><br />As for being a flag-waving, redneck, gun-toting, conservative, Chrisitan, patriotic, PROUD AMERICAN - oh yes, guilty as charged and absolutely PROUD of it. <br /><br />I make no apologies for being American or for my country (unlike the POTUS). I have never visited another country, so I don't know why you think I would be such a horrible visitor. You see, I believe that when I'm visiting somebody - whether in their home or in their country - that I should be respetful of them and their way of doing things. I would hope the same would be shown me and my country. Sadly, it is not. Far too often people come here from other places and want to destroy my way of life. <br /><br />So, please stop making false and unfounded accusations, and show a little courtesy. This is Patrice's blog and Patrice is an American, so are most of her regular readers, in case you haven't noticed. Show some respect, please. <br /><br />ANONYMOUS PATRIOT<br />USA by the grace of GODAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-77467222294080457382010-11-23T16:33:58.707-08:002010-11-23T16:33:58.707-08:00quedula, statistics can be manipulated to say just...quedula, statistics can be manipulated to say just about anything you want. I've seen stats that paint an entirely different picture than the one you're pushing. Just remember this: The United States is a heckuva lot bigger than England! Some of our states actually have a much lower level of gun crime than England. It's been proved that in cities and states where citizens are allowed to own and carry firearms, the crime rate is much, MUCH lower than cities and states where guns are outlawed. Any half-way intelligent person with a bit of common sense knows this and WHY this is so, unles he/she is an ideologue pushing an agenda. We've heard your baloney over and over from liberals all over the world. You've made your choice and your point. Your ignorance is seen and understood. Now, will you PLEASE leave the rest of us alone??!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-543404717145368892010-11-23T11:00:12.444-08:002010-11-23T11:00:12.444-08:00....and there's a just tad bit of a difference.......and there's a just tad bit of a difference in believing in a gun and using one.<br /><br />Believe me, I don't believe in people who don't believe in guns, because I believe theirs is a dangerously psychoepistomologically fallacious belief system.<br /><br />Hint: beliefs don't stop boars and bears. Bullets do.<br /><br />A.McSpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-79633355645869643742010-11-23T09:54:33.292-08:002010-11-23T09:54:33.292-08:00Regarding Quedula's statistics: I feel compel...Regarding Quedula's statistics: I feel compelled to note that the vast majority of gun deaths in the United States are due to criminal activity - mainly gang on gang violence. Even if guns are outlawed completely tomorrow, those criminals will continue to hold their firearms, and will continue to find more. Gun laws only disarm those who follow the law. <br /><br />A small Kentucky town passed a city ordinance requiring all adults to carry a firearm a few years ago. As a result, the crime rate fell sharply. When criminals know every law abiding citizen is armed, they go elsewhere to steal, rape and kill. And, interestingly, there was no rise in domestic violence involving a firearm, nor accidental shooting deaths during the same time.<br /><br />Law-abiding citizens do not suddenly convert to murderous thugs just because they are armed. Being armed actually makes you more careful, and more calm in the face of conflict than if you are unarmed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-72147028701661947392010-11-23T08:54:39.892-08:002010-11-23T08:54:39.892-08:00Here in the United States, "We the People&quo...Here in the United States, "We the People" have certain "rights."<br /><br />According to the Bill of Rights, Amendment II, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Plain and simple.<br /><br />I, for one, am glad for the "right" to keep and bear arms. It's my choice, and it's part of what makes this country so great.<br /><br />Let Freedom ring!<br /><br />Mara :)Marahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03430446450330664155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-83948868509071256162010-11-23T08:22:58.494-08:002010-11-23T08:22:58.494-08:00I'm a little late to this post. There is real...I'm a little late to this post. There is really nothing for me to add other than saying that I completely agree with Anonymous Patriot and A.McSp. <br /><br />TanyaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com