tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post3329756238797076658..comments2024-03-28T19:35:24.365-07:00Comments on Rural Revolution: Response to concerns by an urbanite: Part 3Patrice Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06012022335047974670noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-70729943733200458392015-06-14T06:28:48.619-07:002015-06-14T06:28:48.619-07:00One of the most interesting posts you guys have ev...One of the most interesting posts you guys have ever done... really a good thing getting folks thinking/talking. I feel that the hubs and I are better prepared than 80% of the people who list their preparedness plans on the net. Not bragging, just stating a fact! We are 2 old farts that have more experience than some though.... How ever when I look at the BIG PICTURE I see our areas of weakness, what we could be working to improve, etc. Reading the comments in these posts... I see a lot of over confidence. Just saying. An interesting experiment would be for us all to throw the main breaker to our house and do with out power for a week. Any takers out there??? Anyone?? Here would be my situation......2 freezers down, me trying to can the contents in 90 degree heat over a wood fire, with out enough empty jars to contain it all. Carrying the water & finding the wood to have the fire. Smoke on a 90 degree day, means food to any idiot. Am I a pessimist or a realist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-15780123992280505712015-06-14T04:16:18.506-07:002015-06-14T04:16:18.506-07:00Don, I would rather engage a company of dismounted...Don, I would rather engage a company of dismounted infantry than a dozen hunters that know how to shoot and know the woods like the back of their hands,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-74050920123583924022015-06-13T23:48:00.202-07:002015-06-13T23:48:00.202-07:00Thanks Don so much for your blog. I think, like s...Thanks Don so much for your blog. I think, like some others have mentioned, that our (rural prepper) problem would be not so much "golden horde" as our dear government. But what I wanted to point out was how the "empty" farmhouse got that way.<br /><br />The reply above mentioned the peace and quiet of the county. A horde of 20-30 or more vehicles can be heard miles away. From personal experience I know a single Harley can be heard over 2 miles away (as the crow flies) on a quiet night. After a week or two of almost total traffic shutdown people will notice ANY motor traffic at distances that would give plenty of warning. <br /><br />With people that are already on edge because of lack of communication and news clearing the pantry and running the cattle into the woods would be a first response to more than a couple of cars or trucks coming down the road. If it's not a "golden horde" then it's probably government coming to collect supplies.<br /><br />I don't like seeming so negative about what our government would do to "help" people, but history repeats itself. Most government officials have never had a problem with forcing farmers to farm without seed or breeding stock.<br /><br />sheilab15Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-15989879644033106472015-06-13T13:23:22.404-07:002015-06-13T13:23:22.404-07:00I read your blog almost daily; I don't remembe...I read your blog almost daily; I don't remember how I found it. Thank you for your voice of reason. I live in Southern CA, and would like to prep. But the husband is in complete denial. Now I suspect it is laziness -deny the possibility and you don't have to exert effort. The drought is preventing a garden this year. We always need to prep for earthquakes, so that is what I tell the husband I am doing (solo; no help even with that). I suggested getting a weapon, but he denies the need, even after being reminded of the Katrina hordes. We would have the South Central hordes. Oops, this is turning into venting; sorry about that. Please keep on educating me because I do have the dream of finding country space and living quietly and simply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-36761115036899307882015-06-12T18:56:41.801-07:002015-06-12T18:56:41.801-07:00Dear Don, your post has been excellent! It is very...Dear Don, your post has been excellent! It is very TRUE, very sensible and full of facts and good common sense. But I'm afraid when it comes to "Terry" and his/her ilk, it will just fall on deaf ears, as usual! Liberal-progressives are too far gone. They have been conditioned to think one way and one way only: the liberal-progressive way. PERIOD! Because there's no getting through to these brainwashed folks, I've learned to just ignore them. Less frustration and less strain on my blood pressure. --Fred in AZ Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-6857523957293610052015-06-12T16:51:06.248-07:002015-06-12T16:51:06.248-07:00Very good point! And thank you in advance!Very good point! And thank you in advance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-58532908411337133862015-06-12T16:43:43.286-07:002015-06-12T16:43:43.286-07:00Sorry to be cynical, but unfortunately we're n...Sorry to be cynical, but unfortunately we're not living in a time when people are humane enough to sacrifice for people they don't know -or even for people they DO know. Those days are past in most parts of our world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-20730147914575154602015-06-12T13:07:57.255-07:002015-06-12T13:07:57.255-07:00Oh, but that mention of rotavirus brought it all b...Oh, but that mention of rotavirus brought it all back. God bless you for your efforts - even with the power on. Stay well!Pattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08235729013713862652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-61089160638366361122015-06-12T12:55:20.875-07:002015-06-12T12:55:20.875-07:00Just a thought...
How many of these "looters...Just a thought...<br /><br />How many of these "looters" and members of the "Golden Horde" will eventually realize that all the killing and taking isn't profitable anymore (based on the dubious predication they were successful to begin with) and decide they must settle somewhere and set up their own homestead, complete with garden, livestock, etc.? Seems they will find themselves awfully sorry they acted the way they did among the very people who could have helped them build a sustainable life. One can only steal so much before supplies run out completely.<br /><br />MariaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-7272536651168278432015-06-12T10:41:40.129-07:002015-06-12T10:41:40.129-07:00Don, this was an awesome series. Thank you.
Maybe...Don, this was an awesome series. Thank you.<br /><br />Maybe TEOTWAWKI never happens. Maybe everything will be OK. At least in the meanwhile we can enjoy the blessing of living in what many folks would describe as 'God's country'. It sure beats living in NYC or the Bronx.<br />Montana GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-33688499914455431862015-06-12T09:47:45.139-07:002015-06-12T09:47:45.139-07:00Oh dear this is scary! I live in the south of Engl...Oh dear this is scary! I live in the south of England and it would be almost impossible to get more than about 20 miles away from a sizeable town. I have built up a good store of food after reading blogs like this but it could easily be stolen by anyone armed with a gun. As it is difficult to buy guns legally here anyone with a gun is likely not to be a law abiding citizen. But do you really think that people are so bad? Think of the many people in WW11 how helped refugees even though they were hungry themselves. The family who hid Anne Frank's family for years is just one example out of many. I will have to trust that human nature is still basically good. I have to say I find it strange that so many people making comments, who seem to be Christian, can be at ease with planning to kill others, apparently without asking questions or finding out their intentions.Grubby jeanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07614422762488396639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-46481533208878404792015-06-12T09:25:42.223-07:002015-06-12T09:25:42.223-07:00Hello Anonymous 5:38, Did I write something you di...Hello Anonymous 5:38, Did I write something you didn't understand or that you disagree with? I didn't think I'd written anything controversial or unverifiable or argumentative or even irrelevant in anyway. I was referring to this: "an area about the size of New York City and half of the Bronx" in the seventh paragraph after the start of "Part Three." Sara McDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-33430257347972892602015-06-12T08:01:26.465-07:002015-06-12T08:01:26.465-07:00Great posts. I live in rural western Canada. It is...Great posts. I live in rural western Canada. It is very much the same here but the distance from the "large" centers (over 50,000) is much further, we have to go over 2 hour to get to one of those. Look up Saskatchewan - large province, land wise - and we have just over a million people and most of those are in 2 cities. I had commented on a previous post that my husband's theory is that they have to find us first. Like many in your area, we have been on this ranch for over 100 years, that knowledge and the terrain will be a huge benefit. He has also mentioned this. We have just about 5,000 acres to hide in, that we know like the back of our hand. Only one road in and out. A cow lost her calf last week, it took me, knowing the terrain six hours on a quad to find it. And it wasn't even trying to hide. (She is not the brightest cow and was determined that the calf was were she left it but it had got spooked and took off running) Anyways, I think you get my point. I am thankful for were we live. But they still have to find us. TerriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-80603866740031017102015-06-12T07:04:05.658-07:002015-06-12T07:04:05.658-07:00Thank you, Don, for your valuable posts, and for t...Thank you, Don, for your valuable posts, and for taking time away from your work to edify "the hordes".<br /><br />Your posts are both nerve wracking, because I hate to think about TEOTWAWKI and calming, because I think it reaffirms the thinking at our household. <br /><br />sidetracksusieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-28020773231191231662015-06-12T07:00:13.981-07:002015-06-12T07:00:13.981-07:00Amen.
A poster on part 2 stated their plan was to ...Amen.<br />A poster on part 2 stated their plan was to basically go find someone living in the country and labor for them. Best wishes to them on that. A better plan would be as you suggest, to go NOW and help and store their own food, working with that family NOW, building skills NOW. Unless they are a field surgeon or had a skill of value to a community in a time of need, their plan to walk until they find someone who needs their strong back, armed no less, is poorly thought out. <br />I don't think many are going to let strangers be their "help". I'm not going to say what I think will probably happen to strangers walking up long driveways with a rifle. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-34286453339515946602015-06-12T05:41:35.047-07:002015-06-12T05:41:35.047-07:00Dear Patrice, and Don. Thank you. I've been re...Dear Patrice, and Don. Thank you. I've been reading along and I used to think we were doing pretty well for ourselves. Well, we USED to be doing pretty well. Because it USED to be just 2 of us and our dogs. Well now... it is 6 of us and this morning after a week long struggle with rotavirus we woke up to the power off. Then and there I was smacked in the face with the fact that we are ill prepared to deal with about anything right now. Just to cook breakfast for our horde (who feels like they haven't eaten in weeks) would have required some serious investment of digging out the camp stove and the propane that goes with it. I will NEVER understand why people like electric stoves. ((SIGH)) Then water the garden AND the chickens... Anyway I truly realized things needed that shake up here. THe ticket is don't ever think you have got this, keep moving forward in your plans, don't hold still, don't think you have it all under control, keep planning and preparing because you just don't know. Thank you for all you do.<br />Learning in NYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-19551986337715964262015-06-12T05:38:49.523-07:002015-06-12T05:38:49.523-07:00??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-28169645354668043402015-06-12T03:22:19.597-07:002015-06-12T03:22:19.597-07:00I say let's do our best to prepare...Noah buil...I say let's do our best to prepare...Noah built an ark after all, but not put all of our faith in our own efforts,,,let's pray for God's protection...God help us all. Grandma Ruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-55056577977715915522015-06-12T02:44:22.102-07:002015-06-12T02:44:22.102-07:00LOL how true.
Not long after we moved out here to...LOL how true.<br /><br />Not long after we moved out here to rural KY, we decided to do some shooting in the backyard, and were somewhat worried about disturbing the neighbors. Not 10 minutes later, you could hear gunfire coming from at least 3 different properties surrounding us. I guess it wasn't a problem.Crustyrustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478587825608882510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-69367054007701647042015-06-11T21:35:00.556-07:002015-06-11T21:35:00.556-07:00234234Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-68108649053828920012015-06-11T20:53:07.446-07:002015-06-11T20:53:07.446-07:00If the end of the world as we know it comes along ...If the end of the world as we know it comes along I am pretty well prepared. I am not a prepper just a rural guy who lives very frugally. I know if I don't have something I need one of my neighbors does I'm sure if I asked they would let me use it, and vice versa. Outsiders would be met and told there is nothing here for them. You can bet the person meeting them is covered many times over by people they do not see. Not because we don't like outsiders (I was once one) I don't live where I grew up I left there at 17 and never went back for very good reason. The reason we don't want outsiders around is most of us sacrificed our time with our families and our money that could have been a trip to disney or ice cream and a movie on a summer night not to mention the sweat to put back for a rainy day, all the while everyone else was busy living it up in town taking vacations and spending money frivolously. Not learning how to grow their own food, or coming out to help put a new roof on the barn or mend fences. So why should I share my sacrifice with them. If you are worried about where you will go if the shit hits the fan find someone with some land and go learn how to grow your own food, maintain rural property, get to know your rural neighbors, and let them get to know you. When everything goes south and if you actually make it out of that deathtrap they call a city, you at least have somewhere to go. For those who think they will just come and take as they please, I spent 14 years in the Marines, 7 of those years in Recon. now I am a disabled veteran, (no regrets.) I was taught how use small numbers of people to take out large numbers of people and train others to do the same. I have and will teach my neighbors as they will teach me. I never learned how to work on cars, do home repairs, work on appliances, do blacksmithing or woodworking when I was growing up, all I learned was how to get the crap beat out of me by my dad. My neighbors taught me how to do that stuff, I'm not the greatest at it and it's not pretty but it works. I taught them how to secure their property from people growing pot, making meth, or stealing or squatting on their property. They are not the best at it, and sometimes they call me for help (as I do them.) But I'd put good money they are better at it than most city folks. The bottom line I am making is take your weekends and get to know folks in the country and let them get to know you. You will be infinitely better off for it. Maybe you can learn to grow stuff in your back yard and reduce your grocery expenses or if worse comes to worse you have a place to go instead of wandering aimlessly in the wilderness with the other zombies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-62312281288536052462015-06-11T19:18:24.587-07:002015-06-11T19:18:24.587-07:00I once had a man, from California, ask about movin...I once had a man, from California, ask about moving to the small town near me (10 miles) his concern was could he put in a trap range or would it be a problem. I told him that on a nice spring day it sounded like WW3 so the only problem might be his neighbors wanting to come over and shoot with him. We would even bring our own ammo.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-75554452774346856722015-06-11T18:09:40.910-07:002015-06-11T18:09:40.910-07:00don please read one second after and really digest...don please read one second after and really digest every page,go to bosie to a real fine gun shop and look at the weapons they have.think of the storys you have read about allthe really trained guys there are out there and pray they dont get together to find food.i assure they would not drive up your driveway an a recon.just thoughts from a 90 year old.thanks for hitch in the navy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-78349772319736866362015-06-11T16:37:25.837-07:002015-06-11T16:37:25.837-07:00'Most people aren't preppers. A lot of peo...'Most people aren't preppers. A lot of people aren't preppers because they're can't be (health, disability, age, finances, whatever).'<br /><br />THey aren't prteppers because they CHOOSE NOT TO BE. Period.<br /><br />I have a person I help who is a prepper. She preps ONE CAN A WEEK when she goes shopping. Sometimes more, but bever less. <br /><br />Amazing how many cans and boxes of food she has built up in a year or so. <br /><br />It ain't a years worth of food, but it IS a start. <br /><br />She is a prepper. <br /><br />Most people don't even bother to try. They choose not to be. <br /><br />And, BTW, Don is right...Even here in Indiana where the situation is a bit less well defined, resistance will be....Strong. B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-90297597685618364912015-06-11T15:59:25.895-07:002015-06-11T15:59:25.895-07:00There's one thing you can thank city/suburban ...There's one thing you can thank city/suburban preppers for. Whatever bad guys make it out to your part of the country -- they had to come through us first.<br /><br />You're welcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com