tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post1744125681782988227..comments2024-03-18T15:02:43.329-07:00Comments on Rural Revolution: The leper's bell of an approaching looterPatrice Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06012022335047974670noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-42946045447354898782017-10-25T06:36:06.998-07:002017-10-25T06:36:06.998-07:00My father was a man of many contradictions: An av...My father was a man of many contradictions: An avowed Deist who continually read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and made it the guiding principle of his life. A man who didn't care for material things or to work too hard, who put in 60 hours a week as a coal miner and created a warm and comfortable and paid-off home. A socialist who thought about what he could give (and read quite a lot of Ayn Rand).<br /><br />One of the things he taught me, when I was a young liberal afraid of money and ashamed that we always seemed to have enough of it, was that money was neither good nor evil. Just a tool, no more or less moral in and of itself than a hammer or a tire iron. <br /><br />It's how one views it and uses it that brings "good" or "evil" to money. Work honestly to earn it, and use it to build a life and help the people around you?? Money is good. Steal it from others?? You might say money is evil, but obviously you love it. Love it so much that you make more money, and more things, the star you follow?? Money will destroy your life. <br /><br />You can use a hammer to build a house, or hang a picture, or punch a hole in someone's head. You can use a gun to defend a child, or bring home meat, or put a dying pet out of its misery, or force someone to bow to your will. A tire iron can be used to get a car back on the road, or again to force your will on someone else. <br /><br />It's a tool. It's up to us whether it's good or evil.MCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-23597108828124004682016-12-22T07:17:19.961-08:002016-12-22T07:17:19.961-08:00Rand was an Atheist, and pro abortion. She hated o...Rand was an Atheist, and pro abortion. She hated organized religions, including Christianity. The irony is hilarious. That Christians are cherry picking her ideas, when she criticized them for always cherry picking the bible the same way!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-38568857070357320802013-03-20T14:00:12.576-07:002013-03-20T14:00:12.576-07:00LOL!!
You seem to be a very confused and judgment...LOL!!<br /><br />You seem to be a very confused and judgmental<br />thinker. <br /><br />In other words you appear to be a dyed in the wool Leftist, with a capitol L.<br /><br />And it's no doubt a waste to inform you Ms. Rand earned her way out of communist Russia and later through college scrubbing toilets.<br /><br />You can front yourself off as a Christian, but it won't make you one any more than sitting in a refrigerator will make you a jug of orange juice.<br /><br />A.McSp<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-86405825964909262772013-03-19T17:36:23.431-07:002013-03-19T17:36:23.431-07:00Just for the sport of it, google cluborlov and rea...Just for the sport of it, google cluborlov and read the post for Tuesday, January 8, 2013, "The Image of the Enemy". Be sure to read all the comments, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-18677585928613897812013-03-19T15:36:18.273-07:002013-03-19T15:36:18.273-07:00If I sent you all the fiat cash I have on hand you...If I sent you all the fiat cash I have on hand you wouldn't get much more than postage due. My point is not that Francisco wasn't implying that money isn't evil. I would agree to a point. My point is that true money or wealth cannot be created from thin air like ours is today and still be considered money in the true sense.<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-76267476959555402392013-03-19T15:31:36.123-07:002013-03-19T15:31:36.123-07:00I hail from a midwestern town where the local plum...I hail from a midwestern town where the local plumber is six times wealthier than the physican. Waaaaay back when, he was listed as a multimillionaire who intended on establishing each of his six children as millionaires themselves. <br /><br />Your example reeks of communism.<br /><br />I am a Christian and I have read Atlas Shrugged. I do not own, nor have I read any of her other novels. Despite her atheism, the message of the book is spot on and we are living it right now. How am I to have a problem with that? What does her other novels have to do with this one?<br />Many people are named Anne, my middle name is Ann. What does Ayn have to do with Mary? I am going to presume you mean Jesus's mother.<br /><br />I guess it speaks volumes about you, that what you remember about her works is what you wrote in your last paragraph and wherein you attempt to belittle Christians who have read Atlas Shrugged. <br /><br />sidetracksusie<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-85345040427134061952013-03-19T14:52:36.916-07:002013-03-19T14:52:36.916-07:00"Ayn Rand was an atheist."
Yes, and the..."Ayn Rand was an atheist."<br /><br />Yes, and the fact that good Christians can celebrate her ideas despite that fact is yet another proof of our diversity and acceptance of thought.<br /><br />I am happy that Ms. Rand from her hard work was able to purchase that diamond brooch. Think of the jeweler that was able to improve his life as a result. And the miners, and the silversmiths and the trucking companies, etal. I bet some of them were even able to hire a toilet cleaner!<br /><br />"The doctor has already been COMPENSATED -- by God..."<br /><br />Does God compensate him for the YEARS of expensive .gov education? How much training does the toilet cleaner need? What is toilet cleaner's liability if he does a poor job or makes a mistake? Doctor's fees were much more in line before the government started tinkering with the system - trying to make it more "fair".<br /><br />"...the only image I remember from all those dubiously worthy books is that of some clown climbing up naked through a window, with a hard on..."<br /><br />It this is all you can remember (and it obviously is)...perhaps it is time for some serious introspection,...and a cold shower.<br /><br />Tim<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-31528740689619827612013-03-19T14:50:29.160-07:002013-03-19T14:50:29.160-07:00I haven't said this as clearly as I wanted to....I haven't said this as clearly as I wanted to. If you will read the end of the sentence with all the capitals in it, as, "one trivial fraction of the remuneration the doctor has already received gratis!", my intention will be more clear. I have a major problem with very able people exploiting God's gifts to intentionally create social division and misery-by-comparison. If you had even one week's real contact with the 'monied' classes, you'd find a viciously entrenched 'entitlement' mindset far more socially destructive than that of the welfare classes you constantly trash.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-76052888789070286432013-03-19T14:30:11.829-07:002013-03-19T14:30:11.829-07:00OK. You're right. I concede. As my punishme...OK. You're right. I concede. As my punishment, send me all of your fiat cash and I will see that it gets properly disposed of.<br /><br />My point was not to set up an argument about fiat currency. The point is in the speech that the the man is the source of corruption/evil. Not his money. <br /><br />TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-90076783356660847772013-03-19T11:17:25.845-07:002013-03-19T11:17:25.845-07:00Ayn Rand was an atheist. So. No spirituality in ...Ayn Rand was an atheist. So. No spirituality in her make-up at all. That's a pretty systemic blight on the 'philosophy' from which you're cherry-picking. Have you seen the photo of Ayn (--wasn't that the name of Mary's mother?) wearing her huge diamond-studded dollar-sign brooch? (i.e. a literal dollar-sign shaped diamond-studded brooch) (I wonder if Anne had anything similar, that she might convey a similar social message?) So tasteful, I've always thought. So. Is an hour of a "doctor"s time worth more MONEY than an hour of a "toilet-cleaner"s, or, indeed, "your" time? The doctor has already been COMPENSATED -- by God -- with a mind that, at least in theory, because after all, one has to be so smart to be a "doctor", right?, is already so much more privy to the -- unearned! -- RECOMPENSES of the mind: poetry, art, spiritual perception -- that it's fair to say that no matter how hard, and earnestly, and piously, and respectfully-of-his/her-betters, that toilet-cleaner scrubs, she/he is not ever going to be REMUNERATED -- with MONEY, that can so usefully purchase diamond brooches: a use one might fruitfully ponder as a spiritual indicative of the purchaser; and by vast possession of which our so charming species measures social worth and utility -- one trivial fraction of the amount the doctor receives! And we've all had experiences of how innately ethical "doctors" are, right? Surely the toilet-cleaner values his/her own life at just the same value as the doctor values her/his (that doctor's) own -- or as you do yours! Why, then, are we RECOMPENSED unequal amounts of MONEY for equal amounts of our equally valued, to ourselves, *lives*; and for work equally necessary to the smooth functioning of our common society; for God's literal sake!? I seem to remember a story in the Bible about a widow's mite being more sincere than a Pharisee's basket of gold. Surely then the labour of the humble is equally dear to God as the labour of the more able. <br /><br />Any exaction from the social contract by any individual of an amount of our -- the entirety of us' -- common goods, in excess of the necessaries of life and a -- small, and available to all -- amount of comforts, on the basis of unequal, God-given, gifts of birth -- is spiritual graft.<br /><br />Funny. I read Ayn Rand when I was young and the only image I remember from all those dubiously worthy books is that of some clown climbing up naked through a window, with a hard on, and cohabiting with a (if memory serves) married woman, which behaviour Rand exalted, by her definition of the sacrosanct. You sure are some funny Christians. You'd do far better to read Gerrard Winstanley than Ayn Rand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-63115239213517731842013-03-19T09:09:38.226-07:002013-03-19T09:09:38.226-07:00I first read Ayn Rand as a teenager, and have read...I first read Ayn Rand as a teenager, and have read Atlas Shrugged more than once. I've long felt it should become a mandatory part of school curricula beginning at the 4th grade level. <br /><br />I can also recommend 'For the New Intellectual' for those new to Ms. Rand's work. It draws from her major novels and is a great introduction to her philosophy and values, and is a relatively quick read for busy folks.<br /><br />Thank you for posting this, Patrice. <br /><br />A.McSpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-43128207767034498642013-03-19T09:03:55.173-07:002013-03-19T09:03:55.173-07:00Sorry but your wrong. FIAT cash is not truly money...Sorry but your wrong. FIAT cash is not truly money.<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-15846919419169027272013-03-19T06:25:21.641-07:002013-03-19T06:25:21.641-07:00"...and you cry that money corrupted him. Did..."...and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? "<br /><br />Money is money is money. It is an inanimate object, capable of doing no good nor evil of its own, regardless to its origins.<br /><br />Tim Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-38814995450428121912013-03-19T05:51:36.768-07:002013-03-19T05:51:36.768-07:00Fransisco's speech is my husband's favorit...Fransisco's speech is my husband's favorite part of the book. Glad you had a chance to read it Patrice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-53147497646063044492013-03-18T19:08:18.655-07:002013-03-18T19:08:18.655-07:00My only issue with that was by today's standar...My only issue with that was by today's standards what many of us call money was not what Francisco's character was referring to. Money of a tangible non-manipulated source of wealth is not evil, however FIAT currency manipulated as it is today can be referred to as evil and the person doesn't have to be a looter to say so.<br /><br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-8877122930340331512013-03-18T18:33:28.167-07:002013-03-18T18:33:28.167-07:00Too bad that what we have for 'money' thes...Too bad that what we have for 'money' these days is virtually worthless, backed by thin air. F R prints it and the IRS sucks up what doesn't get 'spent' for entitlements.MrCachethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17380421021822593083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5526768924178592295.post-1263464141812847312013-03-18T17:31:34.716-07:002013-03-18T17:31:34.716-07:00Patrice, are you serious you have never read it? ...Patrice, are you serious you have never read it? Oh man. What a fantastic book. Esp for us business owners. I am partial to the speech by the pirate, Ragnar Danneskjold. He talks about riding the world of the legacy of Robin Hood. The man who stole from the productive rich and gave to the thieving poor. He is remembered as the champion of need. Worth the week or two it takes to read it.<br />Jani JeaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com