Friday, October 9, 2026

Problems of the wealthy

A random story popped up on my computer the other day, a story from Kiplinger's "Wealth Wise" advice column: "Can a 64-Year-Old Retire on $1.6 Million and 'Shaky' Social Security?" (Please note this person is my age.)

"Dear Wealth Wise," wrote the advice-seeker. "I'm 64 (almost 65), work full-time, and I'm tired of being told to use AI at my job. Can I retire on $1.6 million if my yearly spending needs are roughly $90,000 and Social Security will pay $3,500 a month (if benefits remain fully payable)?"

I confess I choked on my tea when I read this. This dude has $1.6 million in his retirement and his Social Security benefits are $3,500 a month? Yowza. Don receives Social Security, and let's just say his payments are considerably less than $3,500 per month.

This man's spending needs amount to $90,000 per year, or $7,500 per month. To us, that is wealth untold.

I think one of the things that baffles me about this kind of financial question is it highlights the different approach to spending and the dichotomy between the wealthy and the lower middle class. Because our income has always been unstable – and because we've experienced the horrors of debt – we've learned to live below our means, however humble those means are. We've spent years finding ways to whittle down our expenses and our spending. This has enabled us to pivot on a dime and adapt when times get tough (see here and here). As a result, we feel very financially stable.

The Kiplinger advice columnist was able to assure the man that yes, he could retire on that kind of income: "Our reader's estimated $42,000 annual Social Security benefit should cover roughly half of annual spending needs. The remaining $48,000 will need to come out of savings. Using the popular 4% rule, $1.6 million could support $64,000 in annual withdrawals. Since our reader only needs $48,000, they have a pretty good buffer."

Now don't get me wrong; this person is to be commended for his diligent savings during his working years. I know no one who has that much put away, so kudos to him and I hope he enjoys his retirement.

But for those of us who were not as financially blessed during our productive years (obviously we get by on a whole lot less than $90K), we've had to adapt and make do. This video is more along the lines of our financial philosophy: "How to Live on a Low Income, $30,000 or less." Don points out that $90K is not a huge income anymore, and in fact falls distinctly into the middle class. I guess that puts us in the "lower middle class" category.

This kinda reminds me of a couple of quotes. Someone once said, "A rich man is not the one that has the most – it's the one that needs the least."

And Diogenes of Sinope (c. 413/403 – c. 324/321 B.C.) famously tells a similar anecdote, to wit: A philosopher named Aristippus, who had quite willingly sucked up to Dionysus and won himself a spot at his court, saw Diogenes cooking lentils for a meal. "If you would only learn to compliment Dionysus, you wouldn't have to live on lentils." Diogenes replied, "But if you would only learn to live on lentils, you wouldn't have to flatter Dionysus.

As it happens, I'm very fond of lentils.

What are your thoughts? Could you afford to retire on $90,000/year?

13 comments:

  1. I would love to have 90k coming in, as it is the Lord has blessed us and we are doing quite well.

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  2. Oh.....I might manage somehow someway. (If spoken aloud the sarcasm would be dripping!)

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  3. Last year when I picked up my tax forms to mail in, the accountants wife did a double-take when she saw our "net income" line! I just laughed! "It's amazing how nice we can live on that amount since we are debt-free!" She just shook her head. But I kinda wonder if they don't give us a discount since we are "poor".
    MM

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  4. How in the world does someone get $3500 a month in SS? I thought the average was about $1200 per month (although I might be misremembering that.) And they're worried that $90,000 to live on per year isn't enough? Pardon my cynicism, but the question sounds kinda phony to me. Unless they have a ton of debt. Dan and I live on about a third of that and as homesteaders, live quite comfortably.

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    1. You have a high-paying job and pay in an exorbitant amount over the course of your lifetime. My husband and I pay almost 6 figures in taxes annually. We have professional careers that are "in demand". We sometimes discuss "going Galt" and quitting altogether. So when you wonder why it's hard to get in to your doctor/dentist/vet/etc ... it's because many folks in these professions are financially penalized for their productivity. I am one of these and generally keep my hours to 20 or less per week, despite the high demand in my area. I live on less than I make, I don't need the 40 hr income, and my community is (sadly) not better off for it.

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    2. Not everyone can homestead and some of us live in VHCOL areas. I spend more than 90K a year and have no debt and no mortgage.

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  5. Probably. Ish. RN I spend more than that a year but I also have two young adults I'm supporting. (BTW I once made $1.6 million in a year. Tech stock options.) (One of them is trying to make it as an artist; the other one is applying to law school this year and spends most of his time volunteering.)

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  6. wealth is a socia[ construct. and "keeping up with the Joneses" is an exercise in stupidity. these days, if you can reliably and consistently feed yourself, you are richer than Bill Gates.

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  7. I presume his $1.6 million is invested in paper and could be worthless by tomorrow morning.

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  8. That saved amount, and the high SS amount, doesn’t surprise me in the least. High earners accumulate big 401Ks (even moderate earners- it’s the best part of corporate America- my little contribution from my early 30’s is worth 500K+ because I’ve got it in the right funds and I’m only 48!) If that guy is spending 90K he must be making a big salary and he’s going to have to cut back when that goes away 😊

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  9. If you work for an employee owned company and have ESOP with them, many people can retire with well over a million dollars in that account, which was paid fully by the company itself. That is one way many lower class people who work low paying jobs can end up with a nice chunk of money for retirement. But most people choose not to work those type of jobs because they don't pay enough for their lifestyle.

    For those wondering how the person makes that much in SS each month, that is based on your job income, so if you make a ton of money, you get a lot more in SS than a person who worked their entire life at a minimum wage job. Which honestly I don't think is fair at all, I think it should be a flat wage for everyone who gets to draw it. I knew many elderly people who were stuck working at grocery stores well past retirement age because they could not survive on their low SS amounts and the cost of their medications. In my area now many elderly people are homeless and living in RVS randomly parked places because they cannot afford an apartment or even the fees to stay in a mobile home park/campground. Many lost their homes because they could not afford to pay the massive property taxes anymore.

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    1. I will probably make that much a month--I'm too young to collect yet. I paid much more into SS than someone who worked minimum wage, so why shouldn't I get more?

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