In-your-face stuff from an opinionated
rural north Idaho housewife.
Interesting thought exercise but will likely not occur without a long and protracted struggle, with much bloodshed and suffering. I believe that the progressives are so intertwined in the fabric of our society that chaos would be the rule for a period of time. Although I pray that our nation would turn from it's progressive, Godless ways, I fear that such hard times will indeed be God's judgment on us. Just as it requires fire to refine silver, so all of us caught up in such a 'coup' will be impacted and suffer, for rain falls on the just and the unjust alike. But I believe such a time is coming, hence the need to be prepared, just as Noah built the ark, and Joseph counseled the need to store up 7 years food for the impending famine.
Patrice, you nailed it. Those were the factors that favored the American Revolution. And the only viable solution is to divide America.I believe our Founders’ Republic finally fell (along with our Bill of Rights) on New Year’s Eve 2011 with the signing of the McCain/Obama NDAA. I actually felt a sense of freedom. After decades of fighting losing battles against increasing tyranny and evil, I immediately redirected my focus to saving liberty for the next generation. It was like a gift of time; time to ‘keep your powder dry’ and resettle with like-minded Christian patriots; time to once again savor that which we will be fighting for. Folks, don’t get hung up on former borders. DC could not care less about borders, and now neither should we. Something will rise from the ashes of this once-great country. Therein lays real hope.We moved to that part of former America where we felt liberty stands the best chance of surviving for our children… the American Redoubt. Folks, you know chaos is coming. Do your own research. Pick your place and the people you want to be with now, before chaos and social upheaval is upon the land.Montana Guy
Yes, a very interesting thought exercise indeed. I would champion the division of the country but only if I could ensure that my quiet little corner was the way I wanted it. And what if my neighbors differ in his/her opinion? It all falls down when most of us have to move somewhere else (already full of people) and start over again with like-minded folks. In fact, thinking more about it, I'm amazed it worked at all with our founding fathers. God was clearly in charge. Even if we now had a completely new country with wide open spaces, can you actually see the Constitution and our Constitutional Republic (NOT a Democracy!) happening again? It boggles the mind. I think the real question is: Can we save what we have? Or is it too late?God Bless,Janet in MA
Janet, the hardest part of motivating Americans to confront reality is that the country they think they live in, simply no longer exists. A 'country' needs borders, common language and shared culture including religion and moral values. All have been virtually destroyed (or squandered) in America.Large areas such as the Redoubt could constitute a new Republic. And why wouldn't you use much of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights as a starting point? How about including Alaska, Alberta and BC? If someone can propose a better scenario for the preservation of liberty for our children I'd love to hear it? But 'fixing' evil DC? Not interested. Montana Guy
Hi Montana Guy, Perhaps I wasn't really clear - I never intended that we fix DC or that we not use the Constitution. I love the Constitution and have sworn to defend it in several of my places of employment throughout the years. DC is a nest of vipers/roaches and it should be made null and void somehow. They shouldn't be 'running' us. They have long ago forgotten that they were sent there to work for us. I still try to be optimistic that we can change a few things for the better here as soon as we get a proper leader in DC... but I know that is probably a pipe dream. 8-( I still love the country I was born and raised in but with the influx of so many people that came in by less-than-legal means, I fear we are doomed and in much danger. In the end, God is in charge no matter what. God Bless,Janet in MA
I don't think either is a real option - both would be extremely messy and worse than what we have now. There are no clear dividing lines for the USA to divide into 2 countries; I think it is more likely that in the distant future the USA will divide into several countries like the British Empire has over time. When Ancient Israel split into Judah and Israel, there was nearly constant war and bickering between the 2 and both were more vulnerable than the united country had been.I think the better option is to build influence in a conservative direction - those who believe in the Constitution have to make a concerted effort to be active and engaged in civics and education over a long enough time to make a difference. It has taken 100 years of work for Progressives to get to where they are now, following the plan laid out in 1913; it will take a long time to undo the damage - are you willing to keep at it long enough to make a difference?A coup or a civil war will involve horrific atrocities, deprivations, and hate on all sides. The best analogy would be to look at China between the end of the Emperors real power and the solidification of Communist power in 1949; in between there was constant fighting, looting, rape, and starvation - nearly the whole country was laid waste, and the entry of the Japanese only made things worse.
Hey, wait a minute. You can't rewrite history to suit yourselves. America was founded as a secular nation with a complete division of church and state. Iran.... and Saudi Arabia.... and the new country you propose.... are/would be deist nations.
Thanks for your input, but...our history is about a group of God fearing & God believing people that escaped tyrant king ruler to this country where they could worship God as they wanted to. Alas, we r back to sq 1 again. Let's see. Where can we go now ?
excellent article. I plan on reading this tomy children tomorrow during school (homeschool--1st/ 4th/ 5th) Thank you!
If it comes to that we will lose all. There are very powerful and very serious enemies of the U.S. I think for anyone in their 30's or 40's it is likely that they will see nuclear war waged on our country. If we were foolish enough to go "extra-constitutional" in an attempt to restart our government I think we would see nuclear war within the week of starting the fight.
Like many patriots believe, we have already crossed the Rubicon. I don't think we can "take our country back" by politics. As Jefferson is correct in his thoughts that a revolution would be a good thing to make a course correction. Yes, it would be inconvenient, messy, and indeed bloody as well as deadly. A real nightmare. Would it produce a better country? I think not.This nation was formed in a different time and place. A new nation would (as one above put it) likely be a theocracy. NOT a good thing. The live, let live philosophy is nearly gone. It is demonstrated in the desire to separate ourselves from one another. We tried that in the civil war. It didn't work out so well did it? We are way beyond that in the polarization of our cultures now and with modern weapons really beyond survival if force is used. What does this also say about a witness for the Lord Jesus Christ? Are progressives beyond redemption? If I read the Bible correctly NO ONE is beyond redemption. Even progressives. You only have to look no farther than the Apostle Paul, who was in the business of persecuting the Church in a big way before he got it right on the road to Damascus. Only another Great Awakening of the unsaved and a Revival of the saved can change us! I find it pretty disturbing that we (USA) are conspicuously absent in the end times (prophecy). Perhaps we are already doomed to disappear. Either by force of arms, nature, or rapture. Maybe all of the above. One or another we need to be about saving those needing saving before it's too late!