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Saturday, September 26, 2015

Are the poor to blame for their poverty?

Here's this week's controversial WND column entitled Are the poor to blame for their poverty?


I fully expect to catch "holy heck" for this one.

20 comments:

  1. Ma'am,

    Just read your column at WND...right on target...anyone who has a problem with it is...ummm, a lefty and lazy...just my opinion...Love your stuff...Mark....

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  2. http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

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  3. Miss Patrice, I am 57 and broke, disabled and broke and yes, I do live on SSDI but I am not poor. I do appreciate a hand up and a hand. I pay all my bills on time, make my living area clean and donate a lot of my time to the local library where I assist in a reading literacy program and historic museum. I own my 16 year old truck and my trailer which I live in, so I guess I am trailer trash... it is cheap, affordable and safe living. I am a 2 year college grad that was dealt a bum hand, but I don't shoot the dealer. I just make do and live within my means and am a better person for it.

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    1. Well done, my friend. You most certainly aren't poor.

      - Patrice

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    2. THANK YOU!!!!

      You are an example that many should follow.

      Nothing wrong with living in a trailer. They've given plenty of people of minimal means the opportunity to own a home.

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    3. MC, it is a travel trailer, I should have been clearer anbout that.

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  4. A well written and researched piece over at WND. Communicative as always.

    Yeah, you're already catching Holy Heck from some people in the comment section over at WND. Oh well. Shrug.

    I liked it.

    Just Me

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  5. I blame Lyndon Johnson and the Democrats. Welfare is a trap. Those on it feel justified and settle into their drug and alcohol fueled lifestyle and are unaware of life. Work to support your family and to one day own a home is the most satisfying thing a human can do. Having it handed to you is worse than anything else the government could do to you.

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  6. I believe in charity. I abhor welfare where the government steals my property, and redistributes it to others of their choosing. Ultimately this is enforced by jack-booted thugs at the point of a gun.

    The US has become wicked. Suggested reading: Genesis 19:17
    Montana Guy

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  7. I employ some folks who are at the edge of poverty..

    Most have little money, but amazing tatttoos..

    Old, broken down cars...with the newest IPhone.
    Can't make rent, but have money for beer, cigarettes and drugs (pot, at least).

    Need more hours, and more money, but can't come in when called on a day off...Often can't keep a job, period/

    Gets welfare and foodstamps, but burns through it quickly because they buy frozen Pizzas and TV dinners instead of good, wholesome ingredients that require preparation before cooking. Few of the women (and none of the men) have a clue when I talk about cooking....and recipies.

    To a large extent, their "poverty" is caused by bad choices.....and the inability to LEARN from those bad choices....

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    1. John Wayne was right, 'Life is hard. It's even harder when you are stupid."
      Montana Guy

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    2. it is nearly impossible to find anyone to work in the construction field that can pass a drug test. If they do pass the drug test, it is nearly impossible to get them to actually show up to work. If they do actually show up to work, a large part of the productive day is spent on their phone, texting, snap chatting and Instagramming. All of them are down to their last dime by payday and it is common for them to request money ahead to get by until payday. What makes me really sad is most of these people are 20 something, healthy adult males that you would think would be in the prime of their lives, working hard and hopefully improving their lives. We even have a few 30 and 40 somethings with families that are in the same boat. Their cars barely run and they live in dumps, but they all brag about their next tattoo, most smoke and drink. We pay pretty decent wages for the type of work they do, yet most of them also get food stamps because they say they can't afford groceries. We have tried over the years to council and help all of them, yet the eyes glaze over and they get a far away look in their eyes when things like debt free and living frugally are mentioned. So yes, these people live in poverty and in my opinion it is entirely of their own making.

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    3. Many people (including some in my own family) continually have money problems because when payday comes they feel "Hey! I worked hard this week, lets go have some fun!". So they spend their hard earned money on fun stuff first instead of bills and then complain about how poor they are and how much better other people have it. It doesn't do any good to point out their entitlement attitude and how they are causing their own problems.

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  8. Are the poor to blame for their lot??

    Sometimes yes, sometimes no. My grandfather worked hard, owned his car and his home, saved money at every opportunity, and practiced a massive degree of thrift, and still I remember standing in line for donated commodities and always being just above the edge of poverty. I don't know if we were poor or not, but certainly we were always broke.

    I have a friend who's living in Second-World level poverty. Still, she's not complaining. She never accepted welfare until Obamacare left her with a choice between Medicaid or breaking the law. She works all the hours she can get as a substitute teacher's aide; I pray often that she will get the next permanent position that opens up (she applies for them all, as well as living extremely frugally and taking odd jobs). Is she in the situation she's in because of her own choices?? Yes-- she doesn't want to move out of the severely depressed area where she lives until her mother dies, because doing so would leave her mother without family or support. Still, I can hardly blame her for that choice.

    Instead of being relatively wealthy, we could have been barely hanging on. All it would have taken is for my husband to not crack the code necessary for an averagely intelligent guy with ADHD to get through engineering school (9 credit hours at a time) or for the funds to keep us going at a subsistence level while he got through to run out.

    We were pretty darn broke while we were doing it-- two twentysomething kids with a baby in a beat-up trailer. I crapped plenty of (deeply regretted) nickels over our financial state back in the day. The same choices that made us poor then-- to persist with school despite his struggling, to persist with school despite an unexpected pregnancy, to continue the unexpected pregnancy and raise the child, to have me work at housecleaning and odd jobs so that I would be home to support him and raise the child-- are the very choices that have made us wealthy today (Oldest Daughter is a wealth that can't be measured in material terms).

    I believe in a safety net for honest people who hit the skids. It happens. My grandfather didn't plan to have a massive heart attack, go back to work for a few months, and then have the steel collapse shut the mines down (although he did make the plans that allowed us to tighten our belts and hang on). My mother didn't plan to get out of nursing school, work for less than two years, and then turn up with metastasized cancer that would kill her slowly and disable her in the process (and I'm awfully grateful for the Food Stamps that let us stay together, eat food, and live/die indoors). Welfare, however, at least as administered today, is more of a trap than a safety net. You CAN get out of the trap and use it for a hand up-- I've seen people do it-- but you have to fight not only the circumstances that landed you there but also the very culture of the people professing to "help" you while you're doing it.

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  9. There are people that make ok incomes and don't spend it responsibly. However, you can't go very far living on $12/hour. I'm not for minimum wage or more government 'help'. The federal government has already 'helped' us with a bankrupt monetary system that depreciates in value each year and for those who get above water taxes take another bite.

    I like the idea of getting people off welfare but we also need better voters who want would like to abolish as much government licensing and other rules that make no sense and impede job creation.

    If we could do away with minimum wage and SS withholdings that would certainly provide less incentive to employ an illegal as opposed to a citizen.

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  10. Every November I work at a community food give away and we are amazed at the number of people who show up in tricked out Cadillac SUVs and other high end cars with their fancy rims. Everyone in the vehicle has a cell phone in hand talking or texting. Yet they need free food. Thankfully this event requires people to preregister and have a voucher in hand in order to get a box because I'm even more amazed at the ones who show up and say "We heard they were giving food away and we want some."
    Then you feel so bad when the elderly who show up in vehicles that look like they are being held together with bailing wire and duct tape and we're out of food boxes.

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  11. My community has free meals fr kids at the public schools in the summer. The kids show up usually the parents drive them there in typically nice cars. I have no doubt that the parents also get food stamps too. It would seem to me that getting food stamps based on the number of mouths to feed and also getting free school lunches is fraud. Why no investigation and punishment?

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  12. I'm confused!
    The programs for the poor are working wonderfully; we've never had so much success at creating poverty in our nations history!
    /sarcasm off.

    When I was poor, I shut my phone off so I didn't have that bill to pay. Today, if I were poor I could get an obamaphone.

    When I was poor, I picked up pecans in the fall and despite wanting to keep them to eat, I sold them so I would have money to buy the things I needed that I could not grow, such as soap, shampoo and toilet paper. We ate what I grew in the garden, had duck, pheasant and deer for meat. Paper towels and baggies were luxuries I did not have in my house.

    When I was poor, I kept myself clean but I was not colorfully remodeled by a tattoo artist. My hair was long or cut at home (still is) and I cut my husbands hair, both of us sported the color of hair God blessed us with (although long hours in the sun gave us natural highlights). Now the poor have hair in primary colors, even the little children, bought with money that is "fungible" only because taxpayers provide the basics.

    When I was poor, we had no AC and the heat came from a wood stove, the wood was cut, hauled and stacked with our own labor. It was cold in the bedrooms and there was frost on the inside of the windows and beautiful lacy patterns that amazed me with their beauty. If we had the money to spare, we put plastic on the windows to help keep the drafts out. We put every blanket we owned on the bed. Now there is heat assistance.

    When I was poor I was very happy. No one owed me anything. I hunted for the next or second job like a seasoned hunter and every interview provided me insight to myself and to the market. Two jobs was STANDARD and neither paid the bills but together along with my husbands earnings, we scraped by. We had potlucks and played cards or visit with other "poor" friends; laughter is free.

    sidetracksusie

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