In-your-face stuff from an opinionated
rural north Idaho housewife.
Well... Yes and no. Religion does indeed instill a belief in honesty and doing the right thing. But I hope you don't believe that people with no interest in religion are dishonest and intent on doing the wrong thing. It's more complicated than that. Good people of all stripe religions and no religious are why America works. Religion didn't make it happen it was merely one of the factors. My most controversial statement is this: People, immigrants from Northern Europe were simply better people than most in the world. Not 100%, but by a substantial margin. Now as the face/culture of our country changes that advantage will become diluted and it is unlikely that "religion" will be able to fix that.
This is a very on target and topical column. It is so hard to listen to the world and not want to bang heads together! I have read the book and I know who wins in the end but getting there may be a struggle....
It isn't just religion but the Judeo-Christian ethic; other religions don't have the same effect - look at the corruption and violence endemic in Indian society, for example.When you do take away religion, how do police help you, as an individual? They then have every reason to abuse their position as has been seen numerous times in big city police departments in recent decades: extortion, false arrest, theft, even outright murder by those sworn to stop it.
Tomorrow is Sunday. How many Americans will hear their pastor call out by name the evil political leaders in DC, speak out against the Nazi Police State, speak out against our nation committing the gravest international crime of aggression and the resultant shedding of innocent blood, the 2,970 babies aborted since last Sunday? Our Founders heard such messages every Sunday.The vast majority of churches today are 501c3 government corporations. Their pastors are hirelings not shepherds. They feed their sheep to the wolf for IRS tax indulgences. John 10: 11-13.America is 1938 Germany, complete with a Nazi Police State. ‘The Church’ is in bed with evil-doers just like Germany. What do you think Christ would tell those who support these ‘churches’?Montana Guy
True story, They would serve their sheep up on platters if it meant self preservation.. get rid of tax exemption and stand on your merits....
Although I normally agree with your posts, I find it disturbing that you suggest that it is religion that dictates if one has a moral compass. If you need a supreme being to threaten you with eternal damnation in order for you to be a moral person then there is something wrong. We all know that there are countless immoral religious people in the world and given that, why would you suggest that religion is the reason for a person's morality? Regardless of my religious upbringing (if any) you may say that God is speaking through me because of my moral actions, but that does not mean that being indoctrinated into a specific religious sect is the reason that I can comprehend right from wrong or good from evil.
....Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle........from George Washington's Farwell address to the nation.Natokadn
Natokadn, thank you. Our Liberty Pastor is a firm believer that George Washington's Farwell Address is the greatest speech ever made on US soil.Montana Guy
I want to believe that religion makes one good. Certainly I like my religion; without it, I suspect I might have quit getting out of bed in the morning quite some time ago. But I don't know whether religion makes one good or not. I have known too many religious people who managed to take God's name in vain without ever uttering a single potty word. I DO believe that the moral standard of my countrymen is in the toilet, one way or another. There is too little "What can I learn?" and too little "What can I contribute?" and entirely too much "What can I get?" and "What can I get away with?" for my comfort. My father (an avid Genesis-to-Revelation Bible reader and card-carrying deist) explained it to me like this: Daddy: "Why do you stop at a stop sign?"Me, long before I was old enough for a drivers' license: "Because I'll get in trouble if I don't."Daddy: "Okay. Why do you go after you've stopped?"Me: "Because I want to get where I'm going!"Daddy: "But how do you know someone isn't going to hit you?"Me: "Because they're supposed to stop too. And they'll get in trouble if they don't."Daddy: "Getting in trouble won't help much if you're dead."Me: "But they almost always do stop..."Daddy: "That's why you always come to a FULL STOP at a stop sign. The traffic laws only work if pretty much everyone chooses to follow them. And that's why you treat people right. It makes things work. When somebody doesn't do what's right, that person is a low-bred [male puppy]." Kinda stuck in my head. I DO fear God (possibly to an unhealthy, going-to-have-to-answer-to-Jesus extent). But I try very, very hard to do what is right because I don't want to teach my kids to be low-bred [male puppies], or see a low-bred [adult female dog] in the mirror when I have to brush my teeth.