Country Living Series

Sunday, October 14, 2012

The uncertain fate of higher education

Here's this weekend's WND column entitled The Uncertain Fate of Higher Education.


Here's the article in UCDavis Magazine that I reference, if anyone's interested.


It clearly wasn't a barn-burner of a column, but I believe the points are valid, especially when this graph is considered.



11 comments:

  1. My daughter has wanted to be a civil engineer since she was 10, so it came as no surprise that she chose to go to a well known private engineering university. Unfortunately, the cost for the first year was $40,000, 2nd year - $42,000, 3rd year, $43,000 and this, her 4th year -it's $44,000 (it's a five year program with a combination of schooling and working through co-ops in the field). Needless to say, we could not afford these kinds of bills. But daughter knew this was going to be the case, so worked hard through all her schooling and managed to get almost a full 4 year scholarship and we only (Did I say only?) have to pay $10,000 a year and she has to come up with half that cost with loans. I don't know how people and their parents do this these days. I think it's terrible that we have to choose between a great education and what parents can afford.

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    1. Yikes. It's worse than I thought.

      - Patrice

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  2. I love this article! I am linking to it on www.edthatmatters.com and fwd'ing it to my son!

    Peace,
    Todd

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  3. Unless your child wants to be an engineer or a doctor, start with two years at your local community college to get the basics out of the way cheaply. Then finish up at one of your state's four-year colleges where you pay resident rates. In today's economy, neither you or your child wants to be stuck with paying off huge school loans. We had a very modest college fund for my daughter. She started with that and worked one to three jobs all through college to pay her own way. We only ended up helping her with year 5 when she finally ran out of money. I went back to work so she wouldn't have to take out loans. I am so thankful I did as they couldn't have afforded a loan payment.

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  4. hi. our friend robert came home from undergraduate school for break. he waited until i was alone with him to ask some very odd questions.he was an older student at the time as he had spent a year or two studying elsewhere. thank God he was older because they were being indoctrinated by 'feminists' and the younger ones were being swayed by the 'teaching'.he was in these classes because they were required for graduation no matter the major field of study.

    before my daughter became too ill to finish college we were going to send her to u of rhode island as we lived there at the time. the college catalog had the same requirement listed. what made me angriest is that you have to pay for this damaging hogwash. i told her she could complete her engineering degree without those courses because she could still get a decent job without the garbage tacked on to a degree as long as she had the ability.
    i would never pay for this filth. robert asked if it were true that every time a woman lies with her husband she has been raped. that is what they are teaching. having it drummed into you, along with other rubbish, for several semesters does have an effect. robert was called into their offices by both the female 'professors' and raked over the coals for being male. one told him the other students were suppressed by the 'maleness' of his presence in the classroom. robert is not a huge young man and he is a tenor so it isn't as though he were a great hulking thing. and he never spoke in class because he would have been in direct opposition to the class content. so he kept his head low and sat it out so he could complete the degree and get out of there. he is now a ph.d. and a professor himself but i am glad that he was a bit more mature than most of his classmates. it is true that you are paying to be indoctrinated in these universities but it is so constructed that your hands are tied.
    my advice is to get a degree if you want one, but go to trade school in the summer to learn to be a carpenter or electrician or some other hands-on trade which cannot be outsourced overseas. even if the economy picks up you will still be able to save yourselves money by doing your own repairs and installations.

    thanks for the column.
    deb harvey

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  5. It's been pushed forever that knowing a trade is "degrading" and that everyone should try to get a white collar job. So gov't pushed everyone to go to college, and colleges raised the tuition because they could. The economy crashed, and now everyone who is employed is employed at 2-3 grades below their skill level. Employers know this and demand ridiculously overqualifed candidates for open positions. With all of that you now defacto need a college degree to be a bartender.

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  6. Back in the 80s my older daughter was told by a cousin that she was majoring in women's studies. OD's response was "Keep up your typing speeds." It's a computer now but basically what she is doing is typing for a living and working as a receptionist. And this with a master's degree.
    A 10th grader boy asked me what he could do to make a good living without going to college since he wasn't interested and didn't have the money. I suggested being a plumber or electrician. He got into an apprentice program in plumbing in 11th grade and was a close to being a journeyman plumber by the time he graduated. He's doing quite well--probably better than some of those who graduated from HS with him and took on huge debt to go to college.

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  7. There will always be a need for electricians, plumbers, truck drivers, and many of the "lowly" trades can pay more than jobs requiring a degree, with much greater job security..

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  8. To give you additional perspective on those UC Davis fees: I went to UC Irvine in the late 80s/early 90s. My first year, tuition and fees were around $500 per quarter (it ran on a 3-quarter year instead of 2 semesters). So, $1500 total. Quite the increase since then.

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    1. U.C. Davis also ran on the quarter system (3 quarters per year). I don't think the fees in the early 80s were much higher than you mention for U.C. Irvine in the late 80s/early 90s, so it seems most of the accelerated fee increases have happened relatively recently.

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