In-your-face stuff from an opinionated
rural north Idaho housewife.
The word "troll" seems to have become somewhat debased as more and more bloggers have latched on to it without proper understanding of its meaning. The term "troll' was originally applied to a commenter who, for ulterior motives, pretends to take the same views as yourself. He/she will then try to lead you into voicing extreme opinions you had not previously entertained.It seems your 'Jake', Patrice, is just a straight-forward critic who, unable to properly marshal an argument, resorts to 'ad hominem' attacks. Atheists, arguing from rationality and evidence, have to put up with a lot of this from the religious, who have nothing to counter with but their own subjective beliefs.
Every couple of years I hear rumors about regulating the internet and making it more difficult for the common man to use. Just another excuse to take away our freedom of information and feed us propaganda.Quedula, according to Wikipedia, a troll is:"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29I'd say he was a troll. Besides, the English language is constantly evolving and words that used to mean one thing now can have a completely different definition. (By the way, most Atheists/Evolutionists I've spoken to, argue with far greater faith then I as a Christian have.)Andrea S
All Americans suffer under our current public education system, whether your children are home-schooled or public-schooled. The unions, and the politicians they own, are largely to blame. Parents need to demand more from our education system. Taxpayers need to demand accountability. Politicians need to divorce themselves from the unions' strangle hold. And teachers need to have the integrity necessary to stop using children as pawns. Since these things will not happen in my lifetime, I am sure the public education system will continue to detroy the futures of countless more generations of Americans. 3rd world status, here we come. As for trolls, they are everywhere. If only there was an open season for trolls, I'd have my bag limit in no time. Anonymous PatriotUSA
Loved the essay. One small thing: there's a rather unfortunate typo in the first sentence of the first bullet point of quotes from David Warren.
Michelle, I cannot THANK YOU enough for pointing that out. I emailed a frantic correction to WND, telling them this is the typo from which nightmares are made. They fixed it with gratifying speed and sent a return email which said, and I quote, "Fixed and fig-leafed."- Patrice
fifty years ago when i started first grade (no 4 or 5 yr old kindergarten) we were expected to know how to count, recognize numbers, know the abc's, be potty-trained, so on an so forth. we said the pledge of alegiance, sang God bless America, and had prayer before we opened our lunch sacks/boxes.and as kids go, we had alot more common sense then the kids of that age today. my dad had us kids up at sunrise and we were expected to make our beds, get dressed, cook breakfast, wash the breakfast dishes and put away, sweep the kitchen floor and then get ready to walk the mile down a dirt road to catch the bus...his thought was that as long as his tax dollars were paying for that bus we were gonna ride it and if we missed it then it is five miles to town and you can darn well walk. we did not and were not expected to bring rolls of toilet paper, paper towels or pencils for a crowd...our list had only a few things on it: pencils, crayons, paste and notebook paper, an eraser was not mandatory...and these items were for our own personal use. none of my teachers were in a union until the early 70's...so they taught reading, writing, arithmetic and history. the teachers made home visits to every one of their classroom students- usually 25-30 in bigger schools...i say today-homeschool is the way to go if you want your children to be "educated" properly.
Once again, ya done good.Do I remember my history correctly that in the early days of our nation education was promoted and supported by the federal government in order that folks could have the ability to read and understand Scripture? It seems there was a belief that this would make folks better off and make them stronger citizens in general through a greater understanding of the Biblical principles of justice upon which our republic and its laws were founded. Far from being an establishment of a state religion, this seems to me to have been a good idea and one that no doubt had an overall positive effect on America as a nation, regardless of any faults and failures. Rather, I think removing prayer from our schools represented throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and it marked a critical turning point in the character and conduct and values of our society. When prayer and its centering influence left our halls of public education, with them went their civilizing and strengthening benefits. In the resulting void grew a now out of control spirit of almost anything goes. There should and could, in my view, have been a middle ground, which would be a discussion for another thread. In your article you cite some good reasons our educational system is on the skids, and there are others I could add, such a the paralyzing effects of classrooms inundated with students who speak no English and lack even the most basic of social skills. In some areas it's brought learning to a near standstill for many youngsters forced attend schools where the majority of resources are focused on remedial practices. These kids are required to effectively sit on their hands, waiting for an education, while teachers are busy otherwise.This makes public schools so much worse than just day-care centers. They insidiously exploit children whose physical attendance is compulsory so that federal funding can be ensured, but whose minds can and often are not obliged to be present. Just the mind-boggling numbers of texting done by young teens is enough to demonstrate they're not spending their days focused on scholastic pursuit.Add to this the overwhelming percentage of women who are forced out of their traditional roles as mothers and into the world of work. This is one of the most undermining elements of all in our slide into...well...whatever it is we're sliding toward as a society. The public education system may in many ways have always had its deficiencies, but I am absolutely certain, based on experience and what I see and hear every day, that the public education received in California, for example, in the 40's 50's and 60's was far superior to that being received by pupils today. In grammar and deductive reasoning alone we've witnessed a tragic loss of standards and achievement, and, sadly, the list doesn't stop there. The toll being taken by humanism, 'new' math and political correctness is almost too costly and too widespread to describe here. Thank God for smart and resourceful folks committed enough to do, think and be what the Lewis family and others are with regard to their childrens' upbringing. This is not to say there are no worthy minds and characters emerging from public institutions, nor is it and indictment of all schools and educators. It's just that the good ones are overwhelmingly outnumbered by the...um...'sheeple'...?...and the dropouts and so forth. That ratio is not present in home-schooled students. They consistently surpass and outperform their publicly educated counterparts. So thank you to those who refuse to sacrifice their children on the alter of today's public education. Your choice gives our nation a gift of better equipped future citizens and leaders. They are a light and a promise for a very needy world. God bless every one of you. A. McSp
When I hear or see the word "troll," I think of the old nursery rhyme where a troll hid under a bridge and grabbed unsuspecting children as they walked across. "Troll" brings to mind a gnarly, twisted, wart-infested creature who, much like a leper, is scorned by society. The troll is not completely ignorant, however. It has some common sense and some idea of right and wrong. Some. But to keep from feeling totally worthless, it must constantly annoy "normal" people. Doing this makes it feel less inferior, even superior. Hmmm... I think I just described a liberal! A liberal's/troll's life is a sad life.
Please ignore the detracting comments of "trolls" and critics - some of us are very grateful for your willingness to speak out about the failings of modern education. I have friends and family who teach, and in order to keep their jobs they have to be very careful about what they say, despite their deep frustration in the system's flaws. As someone with no children of my own, I often find my opinions discounted as irrelevant or uninformed. Therefore, I am tremendously appreciative to have a blog like yours to reference - people cannot so easily dismiss the words of woman in the trenches of homeschooling! Thank you, and keep up the good work! You are appreciated.
Aw, thanks Jamie. Like you, I have friends and relatives who are teachers. I feel for them because they have a tough job - unappreciative parents, sometimes out-of-control kids, and above all a bureaucratic system that doesn't necessarily reflect their values. There are other teachers, of course, who entirely agree with what public education has evolved into. Just depends on the individual teacher, I guess.- Patrice
Well I will be dipped. I did not know about Dewey's Marxist leanings. Wonder if he could get a job with the current administration? Wonderful article Patrice. Having seen how the public education system has failed both my biological children as well as my wife's son If he wasn't already indoctrinated to the school of failure I would push to homeschool him. Ottar
You are quite welcome, Patrice! I was happy to see it fixed so quickly.More on topic: even though we are just starting out on our homeschooling journey, I am increasingly thankful each day that this is the path we have chosen for our children. I can't imagine turning their little minds over to the state and forfeiting our priority in their lives.
I thought your article was interesting on so many levels. Just this weekend I was at a party with folks who do not homeschool and in fact some were public school teachers. A particular person (a former middle school math teacher and 'curriculum faciliator') had no idea I homeschooled. She ranted about how badly the children are being raised, how they cannot think for themselves, and how teachers are unable to to truly teach and mentor in this environment. She continued for some time to depict how broken she thinks the system is. She also said in passing that she could understand why the homeschool movement is growing but that she would never do it herself, that in fact, she is against it. I choked on my drink. I let her finish her thoughts and informed her that I homeschool my kids. Somewhat horrified at herself, she apologized and proceeded to grill me on what we do, how we do it, why we chose to do it. By the end of our conversation she was asking me to homeschool her kids for her. She swore she lacks the patience to do it and that her kids don't listen to her (anyone else hear this a lot? I do). If I'd been quicker on my feet, I'd have turned the grilling on her to find out why she puts her own children in the system or why she would be against homeschooling as an option for parents who believe the system is broken as she does?
It is in the best interest of a people's ongoing freedom that their government be barred from education.